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00:21 < justanotherperso> I got it working! Rockbox is looking mighty fine on my Classic. No garbled screen and the rockbox.image failed to load HOWEVER the fallback image loaded. 
00:22 < justanotherperso> Everything installed correctly and I am very happy :) 
00:22 < justanotherperso> If there's anything I can help with, I plan on coming back here often, and I will subscribe to the email list!
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01:58 < Dustin_> Hell?
01:58 < Dustin_> *Hello?
01:58 < Dustin_> Is anyone on?
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05:45 < ParadisoShlee> Hey
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18:00 < Farthen> i'm wondering how big of a deal ttf support in emcore would be. anti-aliased fonts would also be nice ;)
18:03 < TheSeven> are you crazy?
18:04 < Farthen> i think, they would look great for the bootloader menu :-P
18:05 < TheSeven> well, maybe in libui
18:05 < TheSeven> but surely not for the console
18:05 < TheSeven> or even a separate dedicated library
18:05 < Farthen> of course not the console
18:05 < TheSeven> feel free to write one
18:06 < Farthen> hmm, let me first look how many line of code the rockbox one is
18:10 < TheSeven> does rockbox even have a real ttf renderer?
18:10 < TheSeven> IIUC they pre-render the characters on the PC and just have antialiased bitmap font support
18:11 < Farthen> [Saint]: ^^ ?
18:12 < [Saint]> this is correct I believe.
18:15 < Farthen> when i have the time i will maybe look into porting freetype. i'm just curious how big of an overhead this would be
18:15 < [Saint]> Well, I remember it being said that there was virtually no additional cost to add it to the rockbox core.
18:16 < [Saint]> barring additional LOC
18:16 < Farthen> [20:11] <[Saint]> this is correct I believe. << pre rendering or real ttf renderin in core?
18:16 < [Saint]> pre rendered.
18:17 < [Saint]> .ttf fonts are converted by convttf and exported to rb's .fnt format.
18:18 < [Saint]> this is done on a pc, though, not in rb core.
18:18 < Farthen> so ttf rendering would not be a lot of additional cost but would increase code size so much that it was rejected? or did i misunderstand you again?
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18:19 < [Saint]> No, it was rejected initially because of fear of additional overhead and it being in a non committable state.
18:20 < [Saint]> then it kinda got forgotten about.
18:22 < [Saint]> Well, actually. I don't think it was ever rejected outright. It just wasn't committed for a very long time.
18:24 < Farthen> i see
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