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04:47 < d_fawlt_uzr> any chances of being able to dual boot to rockbox and original apple firmware? I love Rockbox for music, but I don't wanna have to re-convert my already converted to mp4 video files haha
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05:07 < [Saint]> No.
05:07 < [Saint]> Ooops, wow...that was ages ago.
07:13 < [Saint]> TheSeven: Elfish: <Other_Classic/Video_Owners>:  http://www.datafilehost.com/download-d278cedf.html  <-- New iLike 320x240
07:14 < [Saint]> (fonts are still a little lacking, need to create better ones when I work the bugs out of convttf)
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08:28 < Smoko> Maybe it would be better to mention that dual boot isn't possible on the EmCORE page? I asked that question myself less than 12 hours ago but found the answer myself on the RockBox page.
08:29 < Smoko> The wiki feels like it's indipendent of other things so it doesn't quite make sense to look at the RockBox page and then look at unstable versions.
08:43 < [Saint]> it's not unstable, fwiw.
08:44 < [Saint]> it's "unusable".
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10:35 < Elfish> [Saint] thx for the link :)
10:35 < [Saint]> No worries, I got around to doing the work quicker than expected...so it was fresh in my mind.
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12:10 < Elfish> [Saint] the main menu of rockbox is close to unreadable :(
12:10 < Elfish> black font on a dark backround
12:11 < [Saint]> Something's fucked up then...
12:12 < [Saint]> how did you launch the theme?
12:12 < Elfish> i copied the files to the the .rockbox folder
12:12 < Elfish> and selected the theme under themes in settings
12:12 < Elfish> :x
12:12 < [Saint]> Hmmm.
12:13 < Elfish> settings -> theme settings -> browse theme files
12:13 < Elfish> and then i selected ilike
12:13 < Elfish> the play screen looks fine tho
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12:20 < [Saint]> Elfish: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-fd803796.html
12:20 < [Saint]> sorry about that.
12:21 < [Saint]> I'm about ready to kill the themeeditor for messing up unrelated files when I'm workin gon something else ;)
12:22 < Elfish> *tries*
12:24 < Elfish> seems to work now :)
12:25 < [Saint]> Thanks, and, apologies for the messup.
12:25 < Elfish> it's okay
12:26 < Elfish> looks good so far ;)
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13:43 < hanks> hello
13:43 < hanks> anyone here
13:48 < Farthen> hanks: if you have a question just ask
13:48 < Farthen> oh, i see
13:53 < hanks> can anyone help me fixed my bricked ipod nano?
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14:02 < Farthen> can anyone recommend a project management tool with svn and bug tracking support that is better than trac? preferably with a way to integrate mediawiki somehow
14:02 < [Saint]> what does rb use?
14:03 < TheSeven> [Saint]: flyspray isn't integrated with svn, and twiki is a huge pile of crap
14:03 < [Saint]> fair enough then ;)
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19:01 < benedikt93> hmm, is it possible to have IDA show a value as disjunction of several enum members?
19:05 < benedikt93> TheSeven, ^ ?
19:07 < TheSeven> it should automatically do that if you set an enum type for that value
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19:12 < benedikt93> I mean sthg like "LDR     R1, =EFI_RESOURCE_ATTRIBUTE_PRESENT|EFI_RESOURCE_ATTRIBUTE_INITIALIZED|..."
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19:16 < benedikt93> nvm, the enum must be a bitfield for this
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20:19 < [Saint]> Hmmm...ok, that's something I didn't notice.
20:19 < [Saint]> You can boot rb as soon as the menu takes over from emCORE
20:20 < [Saint]> as in, literally the millisecond it starts to desplay, before any of the icons or backdrop has even loaded.
20:20 < [Saint]> I never noticed that before.
20:21 < TheSeven> benedikt93: pretty obvious fact, isn't it? ;)
20:22 < TheSeven> what would be the semantics of that thing for non-bitfields in your opinion? :P
20:22 < TheSeven> [Saint]: no, it will only start accepting button presses once everything is loaded and the chooser launches
20:23 < TheSeven> but of course you can already select an option during the launching animation :)
20:23 < benedikt93> ...errm...I didn't know the exact meaning of the term "bitfield" before, so...
20:23 < [Saint]> Um, ok....well, there's a significant delay in that happening and it being represented onscreen then.
20:23 < [Saint]> Or, it doesn't work as you think.
20:24 < [Saint]> I can "double-tap" menu and boot br
20:24 < [Saint]> s/menu/select/
20:25 < [Saint]> the emCORE menu doesn't even get a chance to load.
20:25 < [Saint]> gah! s/br/rb/
20:25 < TheSeven> definitely doesn't work for me
20:25 < TheSeven> if i press select while it's still on the white screen, it's ignored
20:25 < [Saint]> ...weird.
20:26 < [Saint]> how long is the white screen displayed for on you N2G?
20:27 < [Saint]> on my Nanos, it's an impossibly short period of time.
20:27 < [Saint]> barely enough to see the revision, almost certainly not long enough to get another buttonpress in in time.
20:28 < [Saint]> it's a *bastard* to flip hold on to get to the recovery console.
20:30 < [Saint]> so, I'm probably not catching the second press while it's still in the white boot-screen. But it's definitely not waiting to load the menu before it lets me boot RB.
20:34 < bcoco85> i was wondering, can be edited the emcore boot menu to show just a plain menu instead of an animation?
20:38 < bcoco85> i mean, is there an option for this?
20:39 < TheSeven> no, but you could change the source code accordingly, or just use it like one (select the item using the skip buttons and press center)
20:40 < TheSeven> [Saint]: on mine it's like half second from the first button press until the white screen comes up, and another half a second before the menu comes up
20:41 < TheSeven> "But it's definitely not waiting to load the menu before it lets me boot RB." << it certainly does, I know the code :)
20:42 < TheSeven> it will load libpng, load the png files from the flash, decode them, unload libpng, load libui, load libboot, configure the chooser and launch the chooser
20:42 < TheSeven> libui will then register a button hook, and only button presses after that point will be recognized
20:43 < bcoco85> i would edit the source code if i know, for me "hello world" is black magic
20:44 < user890104> TheSeven: on my ipod nano 2g i can just press the select button like crazy and rockbox boots even before the icons start to show up as [Saint] said
20:45 < user890104> the backdrop shows, but i leave no time for the icons
20:46 < user890104> so there's the order: emcoreldr -> emcore console -> backdrop -> rockbox loading image -> rockbox
20:46 < TheSeven> backdrop shows == everything finished loading and the libui chooser controller took over
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