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15:55 < KeN^> I might as well drop my question right away:
15:55 < KeN^> I can't fill my ipod classic 80gb with emcore to more than 14.4 gigs
15:56 < KeN^> I'm going to try using original firmware and report back, but I'm not sure it'll help
15:56 < TheSeven> sounds like a broken hdd?
15:56 < KeN^> Might be, but I want to be sure before I replace
15:56 < TheSeven> do a disk scan?
15:56 < KeN^> ... how?
15:57 < TheSeven> i suspect a couple of bad sectors in the range around 14.4GB
15:57 < TheSeven> just use some tool (hdtune?) on the usb mass storage device
15:57 < KeN^> kk
15:58 < TheSeven> if it's just a small area, you might be able to use emcore's bad block remapping layer to patch the defects out at expense of some MB of space
15:58 < KeN^> the thing is that it locks up explorer when you try to fill it beyond 14.4
15:59 < KeN^> Seven, you're one of the developers for both iloader and emcore, right?
15:59 < TheSeven> yep
15:59 < KeN^> just want to thank you for putting rockbox on the classic <3
16:02 < KeN^> dunno if you've seen this, you might be interested in it: www.reactos.org
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16:03  * [Saint] wonders why anyone in their right mind would be interested in that...
16:04 < [Saint]> let's rebuild windows, it's not a bad enough platform as-is...we need to make a crappier job of it :P
16:04 < KeN^> it's a long shot, but it might become pretty useful if it picks up enough devs
16:05 < [Saint]> Not when there's a selection of even remotely sane linus distros
16:05 < [Saint]> *linux, rather
16:05 < Farthen> it can't be more useful as windows. that's by design. but that's offtopic anyway
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16:06 < KeN^> sorry, just wanted to show you guys something you might like as a thank you ^^
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16:48 < KeN^> what would symptoms of motherboard problems be? also, HD Tune shows bad sectors.
16:50 < Farthen> those are most certainly hard drive issues
16:53 < KeN^> I have a site that sells a couple of replacement hard drives... do you know if you could pop a 160gb hard drive or 120gb into an 80gb model? size is not an issiue, they have 160gb backplates
17:00 < TheSeven> 120GB and 3G 160GB should work without a new backplate even
17:01 < TheSeven> and 1G 160GB should work as well, if you get a new backplane, and ideally battery as well
17:01 < TheSeven> (the 1G 160GB model usually has a bigger battery)
17:01 < TheSeven> how much damage did hdtune report?
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17:51 < KeN^> not done yet, but roughly 80 % damaged blocks of 30 mb each
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18:15 < TheSeven> but the first 14GB are clean?
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18:28 < KeN^> i'll send a cap in a while
18:32 < johngreek> hi, i want to find more about the volume cap on my ipod shuffle 4g, i extracted the firmware.mse with extract2g tool and there are 12 files, the only file that remains the same as the other ipods, is the osos.fw file. can i see the files contained in that or i can only on ipod nano 2g and ipod nano 4g?
18:36 < user890104> johngreek: the firmware is probably encrypted so you can't make anything out of it unless you figure out how to decrypt it and then encrypt it back, then spoof apple's digital signature for the update process
18:36 < user890104> i may be wrong for some parts, but usually that's the whole process
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18:47 < KeN^> hm... hdtune pro stops scanning afte 16 gb
18:49 < KeN^> http://image.bayimg.com/nahjlaadm.jpg
18:50 < KeN^> no idea why they insisted on converting png to jpg...
19:01 < johngreek> i am a little nood :P and i want to know how can i see if it is encrypted? :( 
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19:19 < johngreek> can anybody answer about that ? |
19:22 < KeN^> you need to know what you're looking for to begin with
19:22 < Farthen> we don't support any ipod shuffle devices nor do we plan to do that
19:23 < Farthen> and nobody uncapped the shuffles yet
19:23 < Farthen> and you can believe me: it *is* encrypted
19:23 < Farthen> you don't need to see that, it is a fact
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19:30 < KeN^> that's wierd, with standard firmware it shows much less blocks being damaged
19:31 < KeN^> I'll try copying stuff over to it...
19:32 < KeN^> transfer speed is marginally higher, from ~15 to ~19
19:37 < TheSeven> KeN^: the original firmware probably retries accessing those blocks internally
19:37 < TheSeven> but that kind of damage pattern looks very well known to me, from my broken 80gb one
19:40 < TheSeven> KeN^: do you want to try my bad sector remapping tool?
19:47 < KeN^> what does it do? I'm only so advanced... also, before I try it I want to try reinstalling emcore and see if it works better this time around
19:47 < TheSeven> yeah, you'll have to do that anyway before you can try to patch out the defects
19:48 < TheSeven> my tool will run on the ipod itself and scan the drive very thoroughly (may take several days, depending on the amound of damage)
19:49 < TheSeven> it will write and read sequences of blocks repeatedly, identify the blocks in that sequence that are likely to be the cause for the problem, flag them as bad, and retry, until it has caught all of them
19:50 < TheSeven> it will do that in chunks of 64MB or something, and once it managed to get through to the end of the disk without hitting errors any more, it will write a block map for emcore that emulates a smaller, but perfectly working drive on top of the broken one
19:51 < TheSeven> my rockbox builds can use (but not create) that information as well, but stock rockbox builds can't, so only use builds from the emcore releases page
19:56 < KeN^> I'm up for it, but it if you revert to original fw, it goes away... right?
20:02 < TheSeven> yep
20:03 < KeN^> I still have the same problems on original fw; it only lets me copy ~14 gigs
20:03 < TheSeven> yep
20:03 < TheSeven> so if you want to try it: once you've installed emcore, boot umsboot, and throw this file into it: http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/hddscan2.ubi
20:07 < KeN^> the rockbox build that comes with installer-classic.ubi will be able to use the flags/drive/thing from this, yes?
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20:13 < TheSeven> KeN^: yes
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20:38 < KeN^> thanks a lot TheSeven
20:38 < KeN^> I'll come back on here when I've gotten around to trying that out
20:39 < KeN^> need to sleep now. once again, thanks for all the help!
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22:06 < bcoco85> (21:51:40) TheSeven: my rockbox builds can use (but not create) that information as well, but stock rockbox builds can't, so only use builds from the emcore releases page => so, you do something like a branch?
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22:15 < TheSeven> well, it's actually just a different setting of a compile-time config option
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