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16:23 < [Saint]> Oh, btw...I have some suggestions for the emCORE console:
16:23 < [Saint]> 1: - LCD sleep after <X> timeout?
16:24 < [Saint]> 2: - Turn off the device using "long play"?
16:24 < [Saint]> ...that is all.
16:25  * Farthen would like these features but will count the time until TheSeven says that he doesn't want that :-P
16:28 < [7]> this kind of thing is fine in userland, but doesn't belong into the kernel
16:29  * Farthen suggest writing a emcore console fallback app
16:29 < [7]> and as the recovery console is essentially the "nothing running in userland, just the kernel" state...
16:29 < Farthen> *suggests
16:30 < [7]> how would that be supposed to work?
16:34 < Farthen> when it is running the fallback console it would also try to run a small embedded app
16:34 < Farthen> which may also do stuff like memory dumps oder something like that
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16:39 < [7]> what do we have the usb debugger for?
16:40 < Farthen> well, what if you don't have access to it atm?
16:40 < Farthen> IMHO it could be helpful later if panic() could create memory dumps that the users could send to us
16:41 < [7]> and where should it put them?
16:42 < [7]> the interesting panics will most likely break enough things to make storage accesses fail
16:42 < Farthen> user flash
16:42 < Farthen> hmm
16:42 < Farthen> are you sure?
16:42 < [7]> i'm really glad that we now at least have LCD output in all those peculiar situations (CPU faults, panics in IRQ handlers, ...)
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21:20 < bcoco85> (18:40:44) [7]: what do we have the usb debugger for?
21:20 < bcoco85> so
21:20 < bcoco85> if im just playing a mixtape
21:21 < bcoco85> with usb debugger i could be able to
21:21 < bcoco85> catch those random freezes¿
21:21 < [7]> no, because rockbox doesn't have one
21:21 < [7]> that's just emcore
21:21 < [7]> and if it's really a kernel lockup, this will probably kill the usb debugger as well
21:22 < bcoco85> hmm. understand
21:22 < bcoco85> so
21:22 < bcoco85> how can i catch them?
21:23 < bcoco85> stability has increased, but everydays 
21:23 < bcoco85> im listening to funk breaks whatever and suddenly ib becomes trance music
21:24 < bcoco85> there are some debuggin things in the menu but... for me is black magic
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21:30 < bcoco85> is like that there is no feedback. i would like be able to report debugs
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