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13:45 < w33dy> Could you explain with is this project about? I'm new to the iPod thing.
13:46 < [Saint]> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE
13:51 < w33dy> Can't install it on my device, no problem. I'm going to work with the original FW, just for curiosity.
13:51 < [Saint]> "work with"...like, how?
13:52 < [Saint]> There's not exactly a lot of options open to you.
13:53 < [7]> well, this project is about reverse engineering ipod firmwares, finding code execution exploits, and writing alternative firmware for those devices that can be executed though these exploits
13:53 < w33dy> What kind of things can I do with the original one? I have my iPod 4G for over 2 years and never touched it. Now that I'm in summer holidays I want to see what can be done with it :)
13:54 < [Saint]> Unless you're a developer, not a hell of a lot...really.
13:54 < [7]> well, you can install rockbox or ipodlinux, and you won't even need our stuff for that, on these old devices
13:55 < [Saint]> Wow...apparently I need my glasses :D I superimposed a non-existent "Nano" in there ;)
13:56 < [Saint]> Yeah, the 4G/Photo/Color is supported by Rockbox.
13:56 < w33dy> I believe on you, I bet you have much more experience than me(quite obvious). [7] yeah, i understand, but after that can I code everything for it?
13:56 < w33dy> LOL, wait..
13:56 < w33dy> Ipod nano 4G :P
13:56 < [Saint]> Oh, then no.
13:57 < w33dy> Is there any source code avaiable to the public?
13:57 < [Saint]> All of it is.
13:57 < [7]> http://websvn.freemyipod.org
13:58 < w33dy> [7] [Saint] Great, looks exciting this project :P I like to work on this things :P Thank you.
13:59 < [Saint]> I'm not entirely sure what factors are blocking the 4G Nano personally... [7] will likely have a better idea there.
13:59 < [7]> there's some code available for the nano4g as well, but that's only for hacking right now, nothing suitable for actual use as an audio player
13:59 < [Saint]> or Farthen perhaps.
14:00 < [7]> [Saint]: just a huge amount of work remaining
14:00 < [7]> NAND/FTL needs to be figured out, and  Farthen is still working on the HW init stuff
14:00 < [Saint]> Aha. Right. I wasn't sure if it was that, or if there was a wall that had been hit.
14:00 < [7]> (he's on vacation right now though)
14:00 < [Saint]> I gues the "wall" is "developer time/effort"
14:01 < [Saint]> *guess too
14:01 < [7]> yeah, a huge blob of FTL code :)
14:02 < [7]> i think Farthen has managed to get pretty far on the peicore side of things, but not done anything on the NAND side so far
14:03 < w33dy> [7] Where is the code only for nano4G? I'm looking for it.
14:04 < [7]> emcore/trunk/target/ipodnano4g in the svn
14:04 < w33dy> [7] Going to see it right now. Thanks.
14:34 < w33dy> So... basically I can't do anything right?
14:34 < [7]> that depends on whether you're willing to dig through apple's firmware
14:36 < [7]> Farthen has reverse-engineered most of the hardware init stuff, now we'll need to reimplement that in our code, and after that debug it and reverse engineer how to access the NAND flash, and how the flash translation layer works
14:36 < [7]> if we're lucky a lot of this can be cherrypicked from the idroid project as the ipod touch 2g is fairly similar
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20:32 < user890104> [7]: how do i open/extract ipod nano 4g's RSRC image?
20:32 < user890104> is there any software you would suggest?
20:32 < [7]> should be a fat16 file system image
20:32 < user890104> IPODRESOURCFAT16
20:33 < user890104> looks like one
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21:02 < user890104> imdisk -a -b 3584 -f rsrc.fw -m G: seems to be working pretty well for me
21:03  * [7] never bothered to mount images on windows
21:03  * [7] either does it on linux or just uses winhex to extract the files
21:13 < user890104> extracting lots of files manually doesn't sounds good to me
21:19 < [7]> it isn't really manually
21:19 < [7]> you can browser through the file system with winhex and tell it to dump (multiple) folder or files to some folder on the host fs
21:20 < [7]> so basically select all, right click, recover files, choose where thes should be saved, wait, done
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