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04:01 < iwkse> hi, there's a way to play from the ipod a remote folder of mp3 from some hd?
04:01 < iwkse> i was able to install ssh on the ipod but i didn't see sshfs available..which would be it easy
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11:07 < paulo_> anyone else noticed the STOP ascii art on MSE files?
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11:20 < user890104> paulo_: it's known for a long time
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11:21 < user890104> http://ipl.derpapst.eu/wiki/Firmware#Volume_Header
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20:22 < thebestofall007> is there anyone here that has the dfu bootrom file for an ipod nano 2g. it would have a .dfu extension like this for example: emcoreldr-ipodnano2g.dfu
20:24 < Farthen> if someone had it he wouldn't be allowed to share it because of copyright
20:24 < Farthen> what do you need it for?
20:24 < thebestofall007> i have an 8 gb nano that wont turn on and it is seen by my ubuntu system as a dfu device. i am using the ipoddfu.py scrpts to try uploading the rom files to it but dont have the bootrom file.
20:26 < thebestofall007> i was told in the instructions in this link http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Troubleshooting#DFU_Mode to try to get it as a last resort
20:32 < Farthen> which generation?
20:33 < Farthen> looks like nano 2g but i want to be sure
20:33 < thebestofall007> second (the black aluminum)
20:33 < Farthen> you don't have windows somewhere? itunes would make your life a lot easier i think
20:34 < thebestofall007> i tried it in itunes, windows and mac and it doesnt recognize it it all, it just says that it doesnt recognize it at this time
20:35 < Farthen> huh
20:35 < Farthen> weird
20:35 < thebestofall007> its been sitting gathering dust for awhile
20:35 < [7]> thebestofall007: how did you get it into that state?
20:36 < [7]> recovering that isn't going to be trivial anyway
20:36 < [7]> but certainly possibly
20:36 < [7]> possible*
20:36 < thebestofall007> when i first got it, the screen was all scrambled up and i tried to update the firmware, but when the device was updating, it got interrupted
20:36 < Farthen> ouch
20:36 < Farthen> probably corrupted nor?
20:36 < [7]> hm, sounds like hardware damage is the root cause
20:37 < [7]> yeah
20:37 < thebestofall007> maybe
20:37 < Farthen> but maybe caused by hardware damage
20:37 < Farthen> that thing is probably dead by now
20:37 < thebestofall007> i got the thing as a freebie
20:37 < [7]> well, the LCD being garbled sounds like connection problems or a dying LCD
20:37 < thebestofall007> oh
20:37 < [7]> thebestofall007: so you have the tools set up?
20:38 < Farthen> you could do some playing around with it but i don't expect this thing to run oso ever again
20:38 < Farthen> *osos
20:38 < thebestofall007> yes i have the tools set up
20:39 < thebestofall007> i can connect it to the computer and it isnt seen as a mass storage device like it normally would
20:39 < [7]> and embios/emcore/whatever wasn't installed on the ipod before flashing failed?
20:39 < thebestofall007> no
20:39 < thebestofall007> i have the tools set up on my computer
20:40 < [7]> hm... let me upload some files
20:40 < thebestofall007> the python scripts can communicate with the device without a problem
20:41 < thebestofall007> where do i go to get the files?
20:41 < thebestofall007> link?
20:42 < [7]> http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/emcoreldr-ipodnano2g.dfu
20:42 < [7]> connect the ipod to usb, power it up, wait for the DFU device to appear in lsusb
20:42 < thebestofall007> thanks much
20:42 < [7]> then lock the hold switch and run ipoddfu.py on that file
20:43 < [7]> at that point it should hopefully initialize the LCD
20:44 < [7]> did that work?
20:44 < thebestofall007> it did!!! let there be light!!! THANKS!!
20:45 < thebestofall007> THE FIRST TIME ITS BEEN ON IN 2 YEARS
20:45 < [7]> can you read text on the LCD or is it garbled or just white?
20:45 < thebestofall007> its still garbled
20:46 < thebestofall007> if i could post a pic?
20:46 < [7]> might hel
20:46 < [7]> help*
20:49 < [7]> just upload it to imgur.com or somewhere once you've made one :)
20:50 < thebestofall007> here goes: http://i.imgur.com/2Xmz5.jpg
20:52 < [7]> is that bright green spot a bright pixel or a reflection of a camera led?
20:52 < [7]> anyway there seems to be some massive trouble communicating with the LCD
20:52 < thebestofall007> its a reflection of the led. i did this on my macbook pro
20:53 < [7]> was the corruption while running the apple firmware equally bad, or just some minor glitches? (this screen is supposed to be white with a bit of black text, no other colors at all)
20:54 < thebestofall007> it did the same thing as far as corruption goes
20:55 < thebestofall007> once again, i originally thought it was the firmware, but now i rule that out
20:55 < [7]> nah, that's definitely an LCD-side problem
20:55 < thebestofall007> gotcha
20:55 < [7]> or possibly bad cable / badly seated connector / ...
20:55 < thebestofall007> oooohh
20:56 < [7]> i'm still wondering why the firmware update failed though
20:57 < [7]> i mean, it's the first time i've heard of a nano2g ending up in DFU mode without our project's code being the cause :)
20:58 < [7]> back when it was still running the apple firmware, was that pattern static or was it changing when you e.g. touched the clickwheel?
20:58 < thebestofall007> no
20:58 < [7]> so static?
20:59 < thebestofall007> no, it did that all the time when it was on
21:00 < thebestofall007> the firmware update failed because i couldnt read the cue to plug it into a wall outlet and the battery died before the progress bar finished
21:01 < [7]> does the battery last that short?
21:01 < thebestofall007> you guys rock
21:01 < thebestofall007> it hadnt been plugged in in a while
21:01 < [7]> it won't even start updating until it is plugged into a powered usb port
21:02 < [7]> and even if you unplug it while it's flashing, it's supposed to survive the couple of seconds that this needs
21:02 < [7]> the flashing process must have failed during the first <10 seconds if it caused it to end up in DFU
21:02 < thebestofall007> oh
21:03 < [7]> so back to the LCD issues: is that pattern static or e.g. flickering / changing over time?
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21:05 < thebestofall007> no. it looks like white noise, like if you were watching an old analog tv that wasnt receiving a station.
21:07 < [7]> then I'd say 95% probability that the LCD and not the mainboard is at fault
21:08 < thebestofall007> sounds about right
21:09 < [7]> so what's your plan?
21:09 < [7]> you basically have three options:
21:09 < [7]> 1. throw it away / donate it / whatever
21:10 < [7]> 2. get a replacement lcd, and once that's sorted out try to fix up the firmware
21:10 < [7]> 3. try to fix up the firmware blindly and use it as an oversized thumbdrive, or the rockbox voice UI :)
21:10 < thebestofall007> i wonder if an lcd from ebay might help
21:10 < [7]> it might, and there's also ifixit
21:11 < thebestofall007> i see parts all over the place for those on ebay
21:12 < thebestofall007> one thing for sure: this is the first time i have seen ANY LIGHT from that thing in almost 2 years and we made some headway on it. THANKS, YOU GUYS ROCK!!
21:12 < [7]> replacing it isn't actually easy though
21:12 < [7]> you might want to look at the instructions at ifixit.com
21:13 < thebestofall007> I figure that it wont be, but i have had experience fixing electronics and i love getting my hands dirty
21:16 < [7]> http://www.ifixit.com/iPod-Parts/iPod-Nano-Gen-2-Color-Display/IF199-000?utm_source=ifixit_cart&utm_medium=cart_product_link&utm_content=product_list
21:16 < [7]> http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/Installing-iPod-Nano-2nd-Generation-Display/421/1
21:18 < thebestofall007> i have the screwdrivers (torx included) to do this to start with. i used them to upgrade the hard drive in my macbook pro.
21:26 < thebestofall007> thanks a bunch, ill be signing off now.
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23:15 < thebestofall007> hey [7] we were chatting b4 and i got my ipod opened per the pages u uploaded and found that some kind of liquid got in the ipod. i disconnected the display connector and found some corrosion on it. i then cleaned it with a cotton swab soaked in alcohol and that fixed the problem.
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23:16 < thebestofall007> the white noise is gone
23:18 < thebestofall007> now i can see the "emcore loader switch hold for recovery...." text on a white background
23:18 < [7]> :)
23:19 < [7]> now reboot it and start over, this time locking the hold switch again
23:20 < thebestofall007> the only problem is that the python script doesnt detect the ipod (dfu device) and i cant shut the ipod off. what do i do?
23:20 < [7]> you should get an additional "entered recovery mode" message then
23:20 < [7]> hold menu+select for 5 seconds (with the hold switch unlocked) to reboot it
23:20 < thebestofall007> it wont respond
23:20 < [7]> so basically 1. unlock hold switch, 2. hold menu+select until it turns black again, 3. lock hold switch, 4. re-run ipoddfu
23:21 < [7]> did you reseat the clickwheel/audio connector properly?
23:21 < thebestofall007> i'll check that
23:32 < thebestofall007> bad news the ribbon cable is ripped. :(
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