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03:10 < wawaron> Hello, i've just saw that emCore is now running on ipod touch 2g, do you plan to support non clickwheel ipod now?
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18:25 < Poodlemastah> What kind of optimizations can you currently do to improve battery life? I'm currently undervolting CPU, LCD(Even more when sleeping), got frequency scaling enabled. Anything else?
18:25 < Poodlemastah> On a classic that is.
18:37 < TheSeven> you can undervolt the memory, but I assume you already did that
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20:22 < user890104> TheSeven: which models support this protocol: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Nano4G_firmware_upgrade_process
20:23 < user890104> n2g? i6g?
20:23 < TheSeven> IIRC that's >=n3g/classic
20:23 < user890104> so on n2g it's simply writing an aupd img in the fw partition and setting the aupd flag on?
20:24 < TheSeven> and usually writing the osos as well, which is the part that we care about
20:24 < TheSeven> ideally we don't want to touch the aupd
20:25 < user890104> so they overwrite osos and aupd via usb, then let the code in aupd update norboot?
20:26 < user890104> i found a nice chart probably made by you, showing what's changes on each step of the iloader installation
20:26 < user890104> it was more than year ago, i can't find it now
20:27 < TheSeven> our stuff has always been installed to osos
20:27 < TheSeven> (that's where "ipodpatcher -a something.ipodx" ends up)
20:32 < user890104> so when usb is disconnected the ipod sees that osos was modified, and reboots the ipod?
20:33 < TheSeven> the ipod will trigger a reboot if anything in the first 64MB or something was written during the connection
20:34 < TheSeven> even if it's the exact same data that was written abck
20:34 < TheSeven> back*
20:42 < user890104> have you started writing any tool that can communicate with an ipod using the firmware upgrade protocol?
20:43 < TheSeven> not yet
20:43 < TheSeven> before attempting that I'd first do a quick check whether we can inject something into osos at all
20:44 < user890104> you mean by running emcore from dfu and overwriting hdd secotrs of an apple-formatted hdd?
20:44 < user890104> have you found where on the hdd is the firmware stored, and in what format?
20:45 < user890104> i haven't been able to analyze the 160 gb image you sent me
20:46 < TheSeven> no, i haven't touched that yet
20:46 < TheSeven> might be something for the coming weekend
20:52 < Poodlemastah> Is there any (relatively) easy way to create a partition table on a classic? 
20:52 < TheSeven> use any partitioning tool :)
20:53 < Poodlemastah> Would anything firmware wise brake?
20:53 < Poodlemastah> Would be kinda cool to have a few livecds on it.
20:53 < TheSeven> should work
20:53 < TheSeven> however the live cds might not, because most of them can't deal with 4KB sectors
20:55  * user890104 starts playing around with a nano3g and sg_raw from the scsitools ubuntu package
21:01 < user890104> i'm wondering why sending these commands takes ages
21:01 < user890104> like 30 seconds
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