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02:31 < alberthrocks> ehh, I don't know what to say...
02:31 < alberthrocks> [program mentioned in mailing list] is so messed up that it doesn't even want to sync correctly anymore :P
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02:49 < alberthrocks> [7]: you there?
02:50 < [Saint]> The channel is logged, just ask your question/make your statement anyway. He'll see it.
02:51 < alberthrocks> It's about my silly exploit, but...
02:52 < alberthrocks> Can you just tell me what key parts in the iPod Nano file structure contain the DB? My [program] is being stupid, and it's really failing, so if I ever get it to work I probably won't know how I got there... so I would prefer to send you the FS parts and let you mull over it to see where stuff is.
02:55 < [Saint]>  /iPod_control/iTunes/itunesdb
02:56 < [Saint]> What is it you're wanting to do with the iTunes database?
02:57 < [Saint]> *try to do
02:58 < alberthrocks> mess it up :P
02:58 < alberthrocks> I can't reveal more beyond that.
02:59 < [Saint]> You can...you've just got this crazy idea that Apple is lurking around every corner waiting to patch exploits...
02:59 < alberthrocks> I don't know :P
03:00 < alberthrocks> The wiki says something about revealing the notes exploit on IRC (public) being a mistake :P
03:00 < [Saint]> Newsflash, the exploits used in this project are publicly available...could apple find and patch it? Yes. Will they? Almost certainly not.
03:03 < [Saint]> The thing is, even if people are exploiting/jailbreaking iProducts...they're still using/buying iProducts.
03:05 < alberthrocks> Well, before putting it to good use :P
03:05 < alberthrocks> OK, it's revealed.
03:05 < alberthrocks> I'm trying to use Banshee to corrupt the iPod DB. It has corrupted it before (always does), but does it in a certain way that freezes the iPod and/or reboots it.
03:06 < alberthrocks> I own an iPod Nano 4G, but I think it may be applicable to the Nano 5G too.
03:07 < [Saint]> Why?
03:07 < [Saint]> I mean, not saying it isn't...but what makes you think that?
03:08 < alberthrocks> Because I use the latest firmware from Apple, and they (probably) don't know about the bug if they haven't fixed it in the lower model's OS.
03:08 < [Saint]> Its not a bug.
03:10 < [Saint]> You fuck up the DB, it crashes and recovers...its not the nicest behaviour but I wouldn't call it a bug.
03:15 < alberthrocks> what if it freezes?
03:17 < alberthrocks> Oh, and it consistently crashes, it doesn't bother fixing it :P
03:18 < [Saint]> I still wouldn't call it a bug, not in the conventional sense of the word. Apple can't accommodate for third party apps attempting to write to the db. If iTunes did this, and not Banshee, then sure...*that* would be a bug.
03:19 < [Saint]> Oh, does it not recover after a reboot?
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03:32 < alberthrocks> It's not a bug, but it is a crash. ;)
03:33 < alberthrocks> And what I mean by "not recover" is it does boot up correctly, but upon accessing the file again, it crashes (freeze/reboot/whatever).
03:33 < alberthrocks> I think it was a freeze, because I remember holding buttons to make it reboot. But it can be a reboot :P
03:33 < alberthrocks> I'll have to make the bug appear again to make sure.
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11:36 < TheSeven> [Saint]: they *have* patched both the notes exploit and pwnage 2.0
11:36 < TheSeven> the notes exploit was never used for end-user things, so it could have been kept secret, allowing us to possibly get into nano5g/6g as well
11:37 < TheSeven> and pwnage2.0 being fixed in the bootloader is what's making ipod classic installation tricky
11:38 < TheSeven> they apparently don't want to sue us, but if we find holes they try to fix them at least
11:39 < TheSeven> alberthrocks (for the logs), [Saint]: it all depends on in how much of a controlled fashion it crashes
11:39 < TheSeven> if it's something like a failing assertion we can't make use of that
11:40 < TheSeven> but what was reported to freemyipod-dev looks more like memory corruption at the first glance
11:40 < TheSeven> I just don't know the details yet either
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17:06 < julian_> I have a ipad2wifi have (A5 chip) ... It is possible to somehow install cracked app.
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22:41 < TheSeven> hm. looks like we have a kernel bug on nano2g :/
22:41 < TheSeven> and a nand/ftl lockup in rockboxc
22:41 < TheSeven> and the classic is probably just too slow to respond to some usb request - if i artificially slow down things the nano breaks as well
22:46 < TheSeven> and the nano breaks in a fashion that even fucks up logf. damn.
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23:23 < TheSeven> looks like there's mutex breakage in emcore
23:23 < TheSeven> 2 threads manage to wait on the i2c wakeup at once, which is protected by a mutex
23:23 < TheSeven> so either there's something wrong with the wakeup or the mutex
23:23 < TheSeven> or there's memory corruption or i've missed something
23:27 < fmibot> New commit by theseven (r849): emCORE: ipodnano2g: Shrink kernel memory space
23:28 < fmibot> r849 build result: All projects green!
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