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05:22 < smith7018> Hey, anyone here?
05:25 < smith7018> I've been looking into Nano 6G exploits all night and found logs that led me here.  The Seven (spaced, as to not annoy him) seems to know about the S5L87xx and I'm just looking for a little info
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11:29 < TheSeven> smith7018: enough people space that, so I've added a highlight for it as well
11:30 < TheSeven> I was just asleep, otherwise I'd probably have responded sooner :)
11:31 < TheSeven> feel free to ask me directly about that kind of stuff, I've done most of the 87xx RE work, so I'll probably be the person you want to talk to
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12:46 < r100> in the logs I read that version d684858 might be able to give around 30 min. runtime more. Where can I find this version?
12:48  * TheSeven shoves r100 to #rockbox :)
12:49 < r100> ah, of course :) apologies
12:50 < TheSeven> and d684858 was a commit that just changed the status of the sansa fuze+ port?
12:50 < TheSeven> anyway, the most recent builds can usually be grabbed from here: http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi
12:51 < r100> thanks man
12:53 < r100> and is it likely that there will be a emcore version with voltage reducing again in the future?
12:55 < TheSeven> yes, once a proper fix for those deadlocks has been worked out
13:00 < r100> allright, looking forward
13:06 < user890104> TheSeven: he is referring to the custom build i made including some of the patches from the tracker
13:06 < user890104> [01:37:22] * user890104 is using d684858 with all of this guy's patches on a classic 2g and has no issues so far, only a small (30-40 min) increase of the battery runtime
13:07 < user890104> it was the most recent revision when i compiled it
13:07 < user890104> r100: someone on the head-fi forum made and posted a custom build (iirc) so you can probably check there
13:08 < user890104> i'm going to update my classic with the most recent code/patches in a few days, so i'll post a build if anyone is interested
13:08 < user890104> if you are going to use these, check if your LCD is type 2 or 3, because it won't work properly on those
13:08 < user890104> only 0 and 1 are fine for now
13:09 < r100> yes thats what i meant. allright i will check if i'm safe with that
13:09 < r100> call me an optimist but i appreciate every minute extra of battery life :)
13:10 < r100> but original firmware is not an option ;)
13:10 < user890104> me too, that's why i tried the custom build way
13:10 < user890104> http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?string=classic
13:10 < user890104> choose the patches you want here, send me a PM with their numbers and i'll make a build for you after finishing work
13:11 < r100> the thing is, i dont consider myself an expert
13:13 < r100> cpu frequency scaling sounds promising but i'm not sure if unbricking after experimenting is something i can do
13:13 < user890104> well, in this case just wait until i made a build for my ipod and test it, so you can reuse it then
13:13 < user890104> unbricking is always possible using DFU
13:13 < user890104> (which will wipe everything of course)
13:13 < user890104> but if you mess up only rockbox, you can reinstall it easily
13:14 < r100> yes, thats what i love about DFU
13:15 < r100> tried quite some different emcore versions already
13:16 < r100> but the patches on that page sounds very good!
13:17 < user890104> some of they are good indeed
13:18 < user890104> some are hacks/workarounds which aren't the best way to achieve the goal
13:18 < user890104> but they work nevertheless
13:19 < r100> I replaced the original battery of my classic 80 with a custom 650 mAh one, and with the most recent emcore version it's actually doing pretty well
13:20 < r100> yes, that's what i saw in some changelogs; code being rewritten in a better way so it's not so much a workaround anymore
13:21 < r100> for example, the new clickwheel driver made my ipod far more stable
13:23 < user890104> what about the clickwheel? mine is still buggy sometimes (i need to press a button to reactivate it)
13:24 < r100> right, it's not perfect yet
13:25 < user890104> and it sometimes skips the scrolling, but it could be a hardware problem (it was a second hand ipod, in not so good condition)
13:25 < r100> but my problem was when the backlight faded the classic would freeze when the wheel was being touched
13:26 < r100> and with scrolling fast through settings it also froze
13:26 < r100> and those two problems are over now :)
13:27 < r100> well, thats where i also doubt about the cause sometimes, my classic isn't in perfect shape as well
13:33 < r100> if you're testing new builds and need results from another classic for validity let me know!
13:34 < user890104> r100: have a look at this: http://www.head-fi.org/t/532426/ipod-classic-rockbox-its-happening/375#post_8111793
13:34 < user890104> someone already made a build
13:34 < user890104> but look at the next pages, where v2 of channel swap is applied
13:34 < user890104> i'm reading it at the moment
13:38 < user890104> ah, this build actually includes channel swap v2
13:41 < r100> yes, the one hosted on mediafire is supposed to be only the channel swap fix
13:42 < r100> but the one posted before it would include all the patches
13:43 < r100> interesting, i will test it when im home
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15:34 < user890104> r100: (for the logs) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26417574/rockbox_builds/rockbox-ipod6g-a2f2845M-120207-with_patches.zip
15:35 < user890104> not tested though
16:49 < Poodlemastah> r100: None of these patches touch the scrollwheel AFAIK, they only implement the piezo clicker for it.
16:49 < Poodlemastah> Might be more stable with the hold switch polling though.
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20:17 < r100> user890104: I am testing that build from the head-fi forum right now, seems to work fine
20:18 < user890104> r100: shouldn't be so different from mine
20:18 < user890104> except the few rockbox tree changes in the meantime
20:18 < r100> simply love the feature where the lcd completely blanks out 3 seconds after backlight dims when locked
20:18 < user890104> you found the link to my build in the channel logs, did you?
20:19 < r100> yes i did, thank you
20:19 < user890104> i made it to go blank immediately, it's in the settings
20:19 < r100> ah even better :)
20:19 < user890104> so when i lock the hold switch, both the backlight and the lcd are gone
20:21 < r100> i will try your build now as well
20:24 < r100> so when possible the cpu is being clocked down by 50 percent and voltage is decreased by 0.1 V?
20:26 < Poodlemastah> Yes. You can check in the debug menu.
20:26 < r100> ah i can see it in the debug menu
20:26 < r100> haha sorry poodlemastah
20:26 < Poodlemastah> Hivemind. :)
20:27 < r100> amazing! it's 108 MHz most of the time, instead of 216
20:28 < r100> i'm curious what this will mean for the max runningtime
20:29 < Poodlemastah> The author of the patches, double.
20:29 < Poodlemastah> But I'm pretty skeptical to that, I think user89 stated something like a few hours extra.
20:31 < r100> i understand
20:31 < r100> but even an hour extra would be great
20:32 < Poodlemastah> Im just waiting for them to work on my type 2 lcd. :/
20:32 < r100> anyway: thank you, people from emcore and rockbox for making stuff like this possible
20:36 < user890104> Poodlemastah: the lcd init code from emcoreldr could be reused for rockbox's lcd type 2 and 3 sleep/init, but mr. someone needs to put the right code in the right place
20:37 < r100> on that head-fi forum people with different lcd versions were starting to test the sleep function, but there are no posts about results yet
20:42 < r100> and 'castor munoz' said on the rockbox tracker that underclocking even more still worked for him
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21:38 < Poodlemastah> cant find where the lcd init code is in emcore. :(
21:38 < TheSeven> it's in emcore loader
21:38 < TheSeven> (yes, that assembly code beast)
21:38 < Poodlemastah> Im just playing around to learn.
21:38 < Poodlemastah> Oh, I found it.
21:39 < TheSeven> /emcore/trunk/loader/ipodclassic/loader.asm or something
21:39 < TheSeven> have fun dissecting that :P
21:39 < Poodlemastah> main.S
21:45 < TheSeven> yeah
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