[00:08:43] *** Joins: bcobco (~bcobco@77.225.204.93) [00:09:17] *** Quits: bcobco (~bcobco@77.225.204.93) (Client Quit) [01:02:09] *** Joins: liar (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) [02:00:44] *** Quits: liar (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) (Remote host closed the connection) [02:03:43] *** Joins: clustur (~logger@c-68-53-250-91.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) [02:03:43] *** Quits: clustur (~logger@c-68-53-250-91.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [02:52:30] *** Joins: lomeor (5849610c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.73.97.12) [02:52:40] hi [02:52:55] I've a question [02:54:33] can I format the whole disk after I installed EmCORE? [02:54:40] and how can I do this? [02:55:38] <[7]> emcore boot menu => tools => format data partition [02:56:26] ah yeah sorry, I know that I mean evrything including emcore [02:56:50] <[7]> emcore isn't on the disk [02:57:00] oh, where is it? [02:57:03] <[7]> in the boot flash [02:57:27] <[7]> the easiest way to overwrite that is the same way like you installed it: through DFU mode [02:59:11] ok, my porblem is, I'm running linux on my computer and I want to put the original firmware and bootloader back to the ipod [03:01:40] <[7]> not currently possible [03:01:53] <[7]> you can restore the bootloader, but not the original firmware from linux [03:02:05] <[7]> someone would have to port the "ipodscsi" tool for that to work [03:02:13] <[7]> http://websvn.freemyipod.org/filedetails.php?repname=freemyipod&path=%2Ftools%2Fipodscsi%2Fmain.c [03:03:42] <[Saint]> a virtual machine will do fine. [03:03:59] <[7]> hm, maybe it could work if you first dd the MSE file to the hard disk, and then flash the bootloader [03:04:05] <[7]> normally it's done the other way round [03:04:21] <[7]> but the apple bootloader will lock you out once you have flashed it [03:04:40] why will it lock me out? [03:04:47] <[7]> because they're apple [03:05:30] <[7]> once you've flashed an apple bootloader the only way to access the firmware area on the HDD will be through that ipodscsi tool [03:05:41] ok [03:06:03] <[7]> so here's something you could try [03:07:42] <[7]> partition the disk using parted: first partition: primary starting at sector 63, about 200MB (check the MSE file size), type 0x00, second partition: all space after that, logical, fat32 [03:08:07] <[7]> then dd the MSE file to the first partition (double check that the MSE itself doesn't already contain a partition table) [03:08:30] ok [03:08:41] <[7]> then enter DFU mode and push the WTF binary via ipoddfu.py [03:08:50] <[7]> then push the recovery binary via ipoddfu.py [03:09:03] <[7]> if you're lucky that might work [03:09:36] <[7]> if it didn't, you might have to look for a windows box to run the ipodscsi tool on to fix the firmware partition [03:09:57] where can I get the ipodscsi tool? [03:10:35] <[7]> http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/ipodscsi.exe [03:10:51] and I have the original apple firmware, but not yet the bootloader [03:11:34] thanks so far [03:11:43] I hope I'll get it [03:12:03] <[7]> http://appldnld.apple.com/iPod/SBML/osx/bundles/041-8552.20121203.Bile3/x12230000_Recovery.ipsw [03:12:17] <[7]> that's the WTF binary IIRC [03:13:04] *** Joins: Viperfang (~Viperfang@x.viperfang.net) [03:13:08] hi all [03:14:45] <[7]> bootloader image ("recovery binary"): http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPod/SBML/osx/bundles/061-4728.20080707.Vlo09/x12410000_Recovery.ipsw [03:14:58] <[7]> http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPod/SBML/osx/bundles/061-4962.20080909.Aaqs3/x12450000_Recovery.ipsw [03:15:08] <[7]> http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/iPod/SBML/osx/bundles/061-7299.20091217.Bghyt/x12470000_Recovery.ipsw [03:15:14] <[7]> one of those depending on your ipod generation [03:15:21] <[7]> you can tell from the usb id [03:15:30] ipod classic 6th generation [03:15:38] <[7]> there's no such thing [03:15:46] <[7]> there are 3 generations of ipod classics [03:16:02] <[7]> mostly differentiated by their hard drive capacity and case thickness [03:17:56] ohh sorry, ipod 6th generation should be the classic 1st generation [03:18:26] <[7]> 80/160gb? [03:19:25] orriginally 160 but it was bought second-hand and has 120 now [03:19:57] <[7]> oh, the ultra-thick one? [03:20:31] <[7]> but wait, the 160gb 1st generation one was CE-ATA... I don't think there are other compatible drives for that one [03:20:45] <[7]> except maybe with a hdd cable from an 80gb ipod [03:21:15] dun know i'd say 1cm [03:21:40] <[7]> if that was 160gb originally then it's a classic 3rd generation [03:21:48] ok [03:22:02] <[7]> which *should* need the x1247 file, but not sure [03:25:09] ok thank you [03:26:57] Hi [7], could I pick your ipod knowledge? [03:27:10] <[7]> what's up? [03:27:24] ipod classic 2nd gen (120GB) crashes when connectedto windows [03:27:33] linux mounts it just fine [03:27:34] <[7]> rockboxed or not? [03:27:36] yup [03:27:45] <[7]> crashes how? [03:27:52] hangs [03:28:06] <[7]> completely dead, not even backlight timer works? [03:28:21] backlight comes on when you touch the scrollwheel [03:28:30] but it is stuck in USB mode [03:30:31] Windows just waits for a response until it times out [03:30:43] <[7]> USB3 port involved? [03:30:52] The clock on the ipod stops, correct upon reboot. [03:30:56] No USB3 here [03:31:08] <[7]> hm, looks like a main thread lockup then [03:31:26] <[7]> possibly blocking on a mutex that the usb thread holds, which is in turn stuck somewhere [03:31:36] <[7]> I'd blame that on the general usb breakage that we've seen recently [03:31:43] <[7]> nobody seems to really know what's going on there [03:31:56] <[7]> i didn't have time yet to have a closer look into that mess [03:32:14] hmm, clock is running... [03:32:48] lock symbol appears and screen fades correctly [03:33:07] despite having pulled the USB cable [03:33:19] <[7]> hm, then it's just the USB state machine that's stuck, not the main thread [03:44:01] ok, how would I go about diagnosing that? 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[11:45:25] Viperfang: yes [11:45:28] TheSeven: http://pastebin.com/PZ9ESNwK [11:45:45] found it in my irc logs, because i don't remember where i downloaded it to [11:46:15] there's actually a v2 [11:55:14] http://njsg.no.sapo.pt/main-v2.c [12:15:06] any idea who wrote that? [12:15:17] ah, the second one has a copyright notice [14:03:04] *** Joins: clustur (~logger@c-68-53-250-91.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) [14:03:04] *** Quits: clustur (~logger@c-68-53-250-91.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) (Remote host closed the connection) [14:10:13] TheSeven: can we include it into our svn tree? [14:23:49] also, do you have time to review and include some of your working copy's changes, or can i do this for you (with proper testing before that, of course)? [14:24:01] i remember you sent me a patch a long time (months?) ago [14:25:09] freemyipod-theseven-local-changes.patch from 6 may 2012, 187 kb [17:04:33] *** Quits: Farthen (~Farthen@cassiopeia.uberspace.de) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [17:06:58] *** Joins: Farthen (~Farthen@cassiopeia.uberspace.de) [19:55:42] *** Joins: [Saint_] (~quassel@101.98.158.103) [19:55:57] *** [Saint_] is now known as Guest59854 [20:03:22] *** Joins: clustur (~logger@c-68-53-250-91.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) [20:03:22] *** Quits: clustur (~logger@c-68-53-250-91.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) (Remote host closed the connection) [21:51:02] hm, i wonder what that patch contains... i probably had a reason to commit it [21:56:29] apps/resetvoltages [21:56:29] emcore/trunk/loader/ipodnano4g [21:56:29] emcore/trunk/tools/lcdtest.py [21:56:39] testapps/ceatatest [21:56:39] testapps/hddscan2 [21:56:46] testapps/hddscan [21:56:46] testapps/pngtest [21:56:46] testapps/synopsysoff [21:56:56] basicly, these [22:00:10] <[Saint]> Can one of you add to the docs that the current itunes version may be unreliable for reverting to the default FW? [22:00:18] <[Saint]> 9.2.1 is "known good". [22:02:33] [Saint]: yeah sure, thanks for reminding [22:02:55] <[Saint]> In the past week I've directed a dozen or so users who have encountered the problem (also, why are they dropping like flies?), and this seems to fix the issue. [22:03:07] <[Saint]> No idea what changed, but, something seems to have changed. [22:03:44] what about osx? are there issues too? [22:03:50] * [Saint] nods [22:03:57] <[Saint]> It seems to hit OSX and MS [22:04:17] well ... downgrading itunes on osx doesn't sound like a good idea to me [22:04:42] and i don't know if we can find that specific osx version [22:04:44] <[Saint]> Simply because it is non-trivial, or? [22:05:00] <[Saint]> A user managed it the other day, I assume others can. [22:05:33] <[Saint]> logs in *-support if you wanna look. [22:05:34] mac.oldapps.com doesn't have 9.2.1, i think i should look elsewhere [22:05:57] (but oldapps.com has win32 and win64 ones) [22:06:14] <[Saint]> OSX should allow you to just roll back the change to a previous version, no? [22:06:43] * user890104 just found out that he forgot to take down the "christmas" freemyipod wiki look [22:07:05] <[Saint]> I'm not sure pointing to a known good version is necessary, so long as a known good version is given. [22:07:17] <[Saint]> Expecting the user to figure out how to apply it isn't too far fetched. [22:07:25] <[Saint]> But, if you can find a link, go for it. [22:08:15] http://www.oldapps.com/itunes.php?old_itunes=61 and http://www.oldapps.com/itunes.php?old_itunes=62 should be what we're looking for, right? [22:08:56] <[Saint]> for Win, yes. [22:09:47] <[Saint]> I have no idea about versions in between 9.2.1 and present, but I do know that 9.2.1 "just works". [22:10:32] ok, that's good to know [22:15:12] [Saint]: which is the part that fails with the most recent itunes version? just uninstallation or something else? [22:15:27] i added a note here: http://freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Uninstallation [22:15:54] <[Saint]> Uninstallation. iTunes detects an iPod in DFU mode and prompts to restore, but the restore fails as iTunes cannot detect the model. [22:30:39] *** Quits: Guest59854 (~quassel@101.98.158.103) (Remote host closed the connection) [23:01:56] *** Quits: STeeF (~STeeF@office.hostnetbv.nl) (Remote host closed the connection)