[02:11:58] *** Joins: clustur (~logger@c-68-53-250-91.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) [02:11:58] *** Quits: clustur (~logger@c-68-53-250-91.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) (Remote host closed the connection) [05:35:05] *** Quits: TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [05:36:06] *** Joins: TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) [06:11:31] *** Joins: steffengy (~quassel@p57B484C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [06:12:43] *** Quits: TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) (Disconnected by services) [06:12:57] *** Joins: [7] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) [06:14:34] *** Quits: steffengy1 (~quassel@p57B48318.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [08:11:58] *** Joins: clustur (~logger@c-68-53-250-91.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) [08:11:58] *** Quits: clustur (~logger@c-68-53-250-91.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) (Remote host closed the connection) [10:44:49] *** Quits: [Saint] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) (Remote host closed the connection) [10:46:01] *** Joins: [Saint] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) [12:48:55] <[7]> hm, hddscan2 is playing whack-a-mole here [12:49:09] <[7]> pass 582, and the damage keeps moving around [12:50:11] <[7]> it's fighting with a few blocks of a few hundred sectors each, that (when written sequentially) fail one of the write operations (not the one that actually caused the trouble), but when written one at a time (with soft resets in between) are all written correctly [14:11:54] *** Joins: clustur (~logger@c-68-53-250-91.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) [14:11:55] *** Quits: clustur (~logger@c-68-53-250-91.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) (Remote host closed the connection) [15:45:29] *** Joins: RockBoxNewB (6d4b5179@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.75.81.121) [15:47:38] Hey guys! It's me again, the guy with the rockboxed iPod Classic 160GB. This time I SERIOUSLY need your help. It looks like I've caused some serious damage. When I noticed that my iPod once again was not recognized by my computer anymore, I tried to make it visible by starting disk mode (holding SELECT + MENU). However...after that, my iPod was DEAD. I cannot get it to turn on anymore, nothing. Please tell me there is some bu [16:01:11] Alright my friends, there is quite some relief. It looks like the gods of Rockbox decided to have some mercy on me once again. I noticed there must be some life left in the iPod, as a Win 7 machine at least tried to install drivers for it when it was connected by USB. In my desperation, I opened the bootstrap.exe and although it was all f'ed up, the display woke up again. Afterwards, I was able to boot it up again by pressing [16:01:55] The other issue was solved as well: I found out that it is only recognized by USB if in the System settings "Charge during USB connection" is set to YES. [16:08:03] RockBoxNewB: you have put it in DFU mode, just like you did following the instructions when you first installed rockbox [16:08:43] so instead of holding menu+select to reboot it, you have pressed them for a bit too long, and it went straight into DFU [16:09:56] there isn't a way to permanently brick these devices, unless you intentionally change the PMU values (for example overvolt the CPU in order to fry it) [16:10:24] or until you hit it with a big and heavy hammer :) [16:10:52] Thanks for your feedback. I am so happy you developers built in enough backup settings to make sure idiots like me cannot brick it! [16:11:41] Thanks to the "save settings" options, I have been able to completely recover everything I had changed with just one button press. otherwise I would have to start all over again. [16:12:47] they are unbrickable thanks to apple [16:12:59] we just made it easier to recover, without using itunes [16:13:22] The problem is I never really understood the difference between those different modes, like "DFU mode" or "UMSBoot volume". That's why I don't hesitate to publicly call myself a "noob" XD [16:13:37] that's easy [16:13:51] http://freemyipod.org/wiki/Modes [16:14:34] REALLY? You even have a site explaining this? Damn, now I feel REALLY stupid ^^ [16:15:24] well, our wiki is not just the installation instructions [16:15:34] it has other useful info [16:16:17] just go to the homepage and you'll see the main menu at the bottom [16:18:27] *** Joins: n1s (~n1s@c-26d572d5.010-215-7570701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [16:18:27] *** Quits: n1s (~n1s@c-26d572d5.010-215-7570701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Changing host) [16:18:27] *** Joins: n1s (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) [16:19:04] Thanks, that's what I just did when I noticed how much info your page REALLY has. It's very useful! [17:26:19] To everyone around here: Does enyone of you happen to own a rockboxed iPod Classic? I think [Saint] does, but he doesn't seem to be online right now. I've got some issues with mine, and I wonder anyone out there might also have them... [17:32:26] <[7]> RockBoxNewB: what kind of issues? [17:39:48] I ran into different kinds of problems, but what concerns me most is the fact that I can barely get any theme working! The only working theme for me so far is "XPLoRR", everything else I tried resulted in a "Prefetch error" which forced me to clear the Rockbox config every time! [17:40:15] <[7]> which rockbox version? [17:40:43] You mean that long number indicating the developer's version? [17:41:05] <[7]> where did you get the build from, and when? (the rockbox.zip/rockbox.ipod file) [17:42:52] The "Version" indicated when I open System -> Rockbox inf is 4b181b4-140521, if that helps. After having installed the EMCore bootloader, I used RB utility to get Rockbox fully functional. It was about 3-4 days ago, I guess. [17:43:12] <[7]> ok, that's a very recent build [17:45:09] There were some unusual problems when I installed it, so MAYBE it's not a general issue of the build... [17:45:51] It would help a lot if I knew whether others have similar problems [17:50:57] <[7]> what kind of unusual problems? while copying the .rockbox folder to it? [17:51:25] <[7]> can you name one theme that triggers this cratch so that we can attempt to do further diagnosis? [17:53:11] Well, i had huge trouble to get my iPod recognised as a USB device. 2 out of 3 computers did not work, and only with the help of a third computer, I was able to run RB utility and get the "complete" Rockbox version. Two themes that triggered this error were "Azure" and either of the "CNI" themes. I tried it several times, and it always happened. [17:56:55] <[7]> did you try copying the rest of the .rockbox folder again? [17:57:18] <[7]> did the rockbox utility have trouble while installing? (on the PC where it worked at all) [17:57:23] <[7]> was the ipod safely ejected after installing? [17:58:46] On the PC that recognized the iPod, RB utility worked without any errors. The iPod was also always safely ejected. By "copying the rest of the .rockbox folder", do you mean basically deleting Rockbox completely from the drive and moving the files back? [17:59:27] <[7]> basically reinstalling it using the rockbox utility [18:02:00] Let me think...when I received the prefetch error, I basically did a complete reinstallation using RB utility. And the problem remained! [18:52:43] [7]: http://i.imgur.com/rJHiBUM.png [18:52:53] just created a folder using windows [18:53:01] and found a bunch of junk inside :) [18:54:19] <[7]> disk mode involved? [18:54:28] <[7]> who created the folder and who read it? [18:54:42] yes, using disk mode [18:54:54] i created it in windows using right click - new folder [18:55:09] so i guess it created a folder named New folder first [18:55:29] then typed the new name, and quickly pressed Enter two times [19:04:44] i also had it connected to a macbook using disk mode [19:12:13] [7]: after reformatting using emcore, the hard disk just spins down when connected to usb (disk mode) [19:14:35] ah, finally it appeared [19:20:28] <[7]> wtf [19:20:52] <[7]> you say windows showed a corrupted folder in the same USB session where it was created? [19:21:00] yes, exactly [19:21:37] that's why i showed you the screenshot [19:21:37] <[7]> hm. that looks like a lost write [19:21:51] <[7]> and windows not caching that block for some reason, which is really weird [19:22:19] is there a chance that i hit one of the remaining bugs? [19:22:45] you said that there are some conditions which can make it go wrong [19:26:26] just performed a complete rockbox installation using rbutil [19:26:41] after i ejected the ipod, there was no sign of /.rockbox [19:30:23] i guess i need to run hddscan2 [19:30:57] the drive got disconnected according to windows [19:31:03] but the diskmode app is still running [19:31:32] and rockbox utility, which was launched from within the ipod [19:31:50] it happened after one of the themes failed installing [19:57:25] [7], did you find anything out as far as the themes for the iPod Classic are concerned? You don't own one yourself, right? [20:06:19] he has one, he is the main developer of the firmware :) [20:11:57] *** Joins: clustur (~logger@c-68-53-250-91.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) [20:11:58] *** Quits: clustur (~logger@c-68-53-250-91.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) (Remote host closed the connection) [20:13:45] Haha, I should have known that ^^ [20:44:40] Alright then, I'll leave for now. 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