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[00:04:52] <hurdman> i have start a checkout of r182
[00:04:58] <hurdman> and try to build ...
[00:59:31] <hurdman> it doesn't work at all :'(
[01:28:31] <user890104> hurdman: just a moment
[01:31:03] <[Saint]> I'm not surprised RbUtil freaks out here.
[01:31:11] <[Saint]> But, I am somewhat surprised by the error message.
[01:31:27] <[Saint]> And _very_ glad that trying random shit didn't get you any further into misery.
[01:32:35] <[Saint]> (for reference, iLoader is - A: absolutely ancient, and B: in no way related to the Rockbox project at all)
[01:33:11] <[Saint]> There was really never a need for end-users to use anything other than the Rockbox bootloader.
[01:33:31] <[Saint]> ...but sadly needs don't stop people from doing things they think are musts.
[01:34:56] <hurdman> im here
[01:35:36] <[Saint]> I'm aware.
[01:35:46] <hurdman> [Saint]: i have done that few years ago
[01:36:15] <[Saint]> Largely irrelevant.
[01:36:18] <hurdman> [Saint]: probably near 2010
[01:36:25] <[Saint]> yeah - doesn't matter.
[01:37:15] <[Saint]> Rockbox had a functional bootloader at that time. Still does.
[01:38:28] <hurdman> we do not care , it does not solve my problem.
[01:39:41] <hurdman> I also do not care that my ipod is broken , I just want to understand why and how
[01:40:09] <hurdman> i have read the src code of iLoader, and i don't understand why it doesn't found my conf
[01:40:09] <user890104> hurdman: you deleted the files in the root directory
[01:40:22] <user890104> they contain a visual theme which iloader uses
[01:40:23] <[Saint]> either you, or an error, nuked the files in the root directory.
[01:40:34] <[Saint]> iLoader wasn't very smart, or safe, it needs them.
[01:40:36] <hurdman> user890104: probably yes, but i can't remember, it was few years ago
[01:40:56] <user890104> ok, i'll find the download link for the file you need
[01:40:59] <hurdman> user890104: i have tried to create the iLoader directory with the fies inside
[01:41:07] <hurdman> files*
[01:41:13] <[Saint]> What I was getting at, is I am completely unsure why, and how, so many people ended up using iLoader.
[01:41:20] <[Saint]> As it wasn't ever a necessity.
[01:41:30] <hurdman> for me, it was just curiosity
[01:41:32] <hurdman> ^^"
[01:42:15] <hurdman> the same way i have installed my first slackware in the 199X
[01:42:41] <[Saint]> The odds of you creating a functional iLoader syntax theme are...slim. To say the least.
[01:43:18] <[Saint]> It doesn't just want "a file" to be there. It needs to actually be a valid theme.
[01:43:45] <hurdman> yes, that's why i have join that chan
[01:43:51] <[Saint]> In this manner, emCORE is vastly superior.
[01:44:07] <[Saint]> But really everyone should be using the Rockbox bootloader.
[01:44:25] <hurdman> i haven't been able to install emCORE instead of iLoader 
[01:44:41] <[Saint]> Nor should you.
[01:45:30] <hurdman> can't install rockbox bootloader too
[01:45:34] <[Saint]> It is not as safe to play with the N2G as it is other devices. There's no DFU mode readily exposed to the user, so there's no easy way out.
[01:45:47] <[Saint]> You could, if it wasn't for iLoader.
[01:46:37] <[Saint]> Hmmm - fuck it. I don't have any of the ancient iLoader config stuff on-disk here...dammit. I thought I did.
[01:50:42] <user890104> i found the source code
[01:50:51] <user890104> i'm going to try building a theme
[01:50:57] <hurdman> thx
[01:51:22] <[Saint]> I know I kept a valid iLoder config here _somewhere_...
[01:51:34] <[Saint]> well, I thought I did.
[01:55:50] <user890104> http://www.datafilehost.com/d/ea56cc87
[01:56:00] <user890104> i think i built one successfully
[01:56:13] <user890104> but i have *no* idea if it works
[01:56:28] <[Saint]> and zero willingness to check. :)
[01:56:37] <[Saint]> uuuuugh - that'd be such a hassle.
[01:57:24] <hurdman> yeessss
[01:57:28] <hurdman> user890104: it works !
[01:57:44] <user890104> great, i'll upload this file somewhere
[01:58:15] <hurdman> me too
[01:58:41] <[Saint]> you're probably the onle one left in the universe using iLoader.
[01:58:47] <hurdman> :D
[01:59:23] <user890104> lol
[01:59:26] <user890104> http://files.freemyipod.org/misc/iloader-theme-default.zip
[01:59:35] <user890104> [Saint]: here's the theme, in case someone else needs it
[01:59:48] <[Saint]> bookmarked, and saved to NAS. Thanks.
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[02:59:57] <gbl08ma> hello everyone
[03:00:20] <gbl08ma> I have already asked this in #rockbox-community but got no answers so here it goes again
[03:01:14] <gbl08ma> my nano 2g is having screen problems. during the display of dark (that is, many black pixels) screens,
[03:01:34] <gbl08ma> it shows defects from about the first third down to the bottom
[03:01:43] <[Franklin]> have you tried #rockbox?
[03:02:05] <[Franklin]> #rockbox-community isn't really for support
[03:02:10] <gbl08ma> no, but this isn't strictly about Rockbox (it happens on the bootloader, and to a lesser extent, on the OF)
[03:02:21] <gbl08ma> so I'm not quite sure it's about Rockbox
[03:02:43] <gbl08ma> or better, I'm not quite sure it's appropriate for #rockbox
[03:03:17] <gbl08ma> the only reason why it doesn't happen on the OF is because it has a white-ish theme
[03:04:06] <gbl08ma> I have already taken apart the thing and reconnected the display, thinking it could be some bad contact
[03:11:08] <gbl08ma> re: how so many people ended up using iLoader
[03:11:31] <gbl08ma> I have not used iLoader but I used to have emCORE on my nano2g, because of the faster boot time
[03:12:07] <gbl08ma> also, it's so annoying to have to mess with the barely-functional clickwheel keys to enter disk mode
[03:13:09] <gbl08ma> but at some point the LCD screen stopped being compatible with emCORE
[03:13:40] <gbl08ma> there was no software change, one day it worked and the next, it showed LCD junk, and it's been like that ever since, when I retry installing emCORE
[03:13:59] <gbl08ma> so I switched back to the Rockbox bootloader
[03:24:16] <user890104> gbl08ma: the lcd incompatibility is a known issue, it got broken when the LCD driver was rewritten from ASM to C
[03:24:59] <user890104> we could fix it, but we need someone with affected device to help us in testing
[03:26:00] <gbl08ma> well, I have a affected device, but as I just said it is now also "affected" by other problem.
[03:26:27] <gbl08ma> unfortunately, it may well be permanent damage in the LCD
[03:26:53] <user890104> yes, sounds like this
[03:29:00] <gbl08ma> if that's the case, then it's just due to age. this iPod mostly sits docked, and I noticed this all of a sudden
[03:29:12] <gbl08ma> it didn't fall or anything, which makes it strange
[03:40:58] <gbl08ma> here's how the problem looks like, btw: http://s.lowendshare.com/0/1421545227.973.rfdcjix.png
[03:41:08] <gbl08ma> if anyone has seen anything like that before, please let me know
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[11:46:53] <user890104> gbl08ma: if it is a hardware error, it's more of an issue with the lcd controller than the matrix itself
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[14:05:21] <gbl08ma> yeah, I too think it's the controller. I should probably just start thinking of getting another music player
[14:05:44] <gbl08ma> a smartphone or tablet would do but my experience tells that these don't always have good sound quality
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