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[22:50:14] <[Saint]> Mhm. [22:50:19] Okay [22:50:31] So I ran the ipod through a washing machine about a month ago [22:50:47] Put it in a bag of rice for a week, no water damage in screen, charged fine, sounded fine, worked fine [22:51:01] After a week like this, emcore decided to stop for me [22:51:07] I'll put the error... [22:51:23] <[7]> totalbro: I guess you're joshuasm32? [22:51:36] yes :) [22:51:44] Sorry about that, had to leave after an hour or so [22:51:46] <[7]> I'd say drive dead or possibly corrosion in the flex cabler [22:51:49] <[7]> cable* [22:51:49] ATA: Error 80000003 while reading BBT (sector 0, counting 1) [22:52:03] <[Saint]> It likely died from corrosion/salt deposits. [22:52:04] <[7]> or maybe some issue with the voltage regulator [22:52:08] <[Saint]> and, yep. [22:52:16] <[Saint]> that means it thinks there's no HDD _at all_. [22:52:18] Why is it that it can boot fine then? [22:52:22] Or at least into emcore? [22:52:26] <[Saint]> It doesn't need the HDD to boot at all. [22:52:27] <[7]> that's booting from flash [22:52:29] ah [22:52:36] <[Saint]> No iPod does, iirc. [22:52:44] is it cheaper just to replace the hhd? [22:52:45] <[7]> you should even be able to boot a rockbox fallback image in theory [22:52:57] <[7]> totalbro: I'm not 100% certain that the HDD is the culprit [22:52:58] <[Saint]> and, no, it's not. [22:53:03] :/ [22:53:07] so some cable inside? [22:53:11] Is it fixable then? [22:53:14] <[7]> could also be the mainboard [22:53:18] (Hadware isn't my strongpoint) [22:53:29] <[7]> or maybe just the flex cable or connectors if you're very lucky [22:53:32] <[Saint]> it's just about as expensive to replace the drive, sometimes more expensive, than it is to get a whole new iPod. [22:53:49] <[Saint]> but I wouldn;t go buying an HDD on a whim. [22:54:00] <[Saint]> As [7] points out, that's only the visible symptom. [22:54:01] Can the problem be seen by taking the back off? [22:54:04] <[Saint]> Unlikely to be the cause. [22:54:06] Maybe with a picture? [22:54:22] <[Saint]> It can be, but, taking apart the iPod6g is not for the faint of heart. [22:54:28] <[7]> one can maybe see a problem, but that doesn't mean that it's the only problem [22:54:30] <[Saint]> You'll almost certainly damange it further. [22:54:42] Well it currently is a paperweight [22:55:09] <[7]> getting the back of that case off is fairly tricky [22:55:17] <[Saint]> I'd just sell the fucker. [22:55:23] <[7]> it can be done, but there are really nasty metal clips holding that thing together [22:55:49] <[Saint]> "iPod 6G - non-booting, as is, suitable for parts $120" [22:55:58] <[Saint]> (yes, really that much. really really) [22:56:14] ...wtf why? [22:56:25] <[Saint]> Since they were discontinued, people snapped them up like hotcakes. [22:56:45] <[Saint]> Ones in good working condiiton go for $300~$400 [22:56:49] problem is I'm a minor with little to no money, would love to have a large-capacity music device [22:57:39] <[Saint]> Your only real options are a Sansa with a massive sdcard, an iPod Classic, or an iPod Video with an aftermarket HDD. [22:57:55] <[Saint]> ANd you'd spend just as much on the Video as you would the Classic, and the Classic is vastly superior. [22:58:41] <[Saint]> Unless you're lucky enough to find some idiot on a local list or a pawn shop, second hand store, etc. [22:58:54] <[Saint]> But generally speaking people are well aware of what tese are worth now. [22:59:10] <[Saint]> I myself made a small fortune from the boom. [22:59:44] <[Saint]> (buying ipod6gs for $50~$80 bucks of local lists and reselling for $250~$300) [23:00:21] lol [23:00:22] * [Saint] points out that's NZD and not "real money" for thos eplaying along at home [23:01:52] hmm [23:02:18] Is there a device for $100 or less with rockbox support that sounds good? [23:02:31] Own some nice headphones, would like to use a decent device with them [23:02:55] <[Saint]> Any one of the recent sansas fit that bill. [23:03:13] <[Saint]> (except the Clip Sport - we don't (and can't) do that) [23:03:49] <[Saint]> They have some truly terrible shielding issues, and in turn, SoC and NAND access noise, though. [23:04:06] http://en-us.sennheiser.com/audio-headphones-high-end-hd-558 [23:04:14] <[Saint]> recoring on them is essentially useless, unless you want to feel like killing yourself every time you listen to a recording. [23:04:34] I only really care about audio [23:04:47] <[Saint]> Well, the sansas are "OK". [23:04:52] <[Saint]> But far from good. [23:05:20] <[Saint]> The iPod6g is the paradigm in affordable audio quality. [23:05:28] <[Saint]> the output on them is damn near dead flat. [23:09:37] http://www.ebay.com/itm/APPLE-IPOD-6TH-GEN-SILVER-80GB-MB029LL-/191701749309?hash=item2ca2508e3d [23:10:34] <[Saint]> Oh. Wow. Seems like the deluge in pricing has started to subside. [23:10:49] <[Saint]> Here they're still foolishly expensive. [23:11:13] <[Saint]> I guess that's also part of being 42 degrees south of fucking nowhere in NZ. [23:11:48] <[Saint]> I'm currently looking at my local ebay-esque site, and all the decent condition ones are between $250 and $350 [23:13:03] <[Saint]> "Fully Refurbished APPLE IPOD CLASSIC 80GB 6TH GEN SILVER… [23:13:03] <[Saint]> NZD283.05" [23:13:05] <[Saint]> :-S [23:13:18] I'm using the advanced search to limit pricing [23:14:29] <[Saint]> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-iPod-480Gb-5-5-G-with-Wolfson-DAC-chip-Double-your-240Gb-160Gb-library/261437468304?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D777000%26algo%3DABA.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D32483%26meid%3Da0153ce847364683ad0308dda7140360%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dlo%26sd%3D201437161435 [23:14:37] and excluding for parts [23:14:51] <[Saint]> NZD1335.12 [23:14:53] <[Saint]> lol [23:15:01] wtf [23:15:03] is that custom? [23:15:10] <[Saint]> It's got one of those fucking terrible red wine audio DACs in it. [23:15:22] <[Saint]> WHich, hilariously, is only going to make it _worse_ [23:16:45] <[Saint]> Oh. No it doesn't...it just has a large capacity HDD and they're advertising the wolfson DAC the Videos use like it's some special piece of godlike audiophile quality HW. [23:16:53] <[Saint]> that's even more hilarious. [23:17:35] <[Saint]> "IS THE WELL KNOWN AUDIOPHILE LOVED DAC CHIP, MUCH BETTER THAN THE 7TH GEN CHIP, [23:17:35] <[Saint]> PLEASE GOOGLE IT AND FIND THIS INFO BY YOUR SELF FROM THE VOICE OF THE EXPERTS." [23:17:42] <[Saint]> I...no. Just...no. [23:17:46] lol [23:17:52] http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-iPod-classic-7th-Generation-Silver-160GB-Latest-Model-/131614034757?hash=item1ea4cecb45 [23:17:57] this one is promising, 160 gb [23:18:05] <[Franklin]> hey [Saint], print yourself one of these: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Zimbabwe_%24100_trillion_2009_Obverse.jpg [23:18:23] <[Franklin]> that'll buy you a good quality ipod ;) [23:18:30] <[Saint]> Our economy isn't /that/ bad yet. ;) [23:18:34] <[Saint]> Close... [23:18:44] Your in zimbabwe? [23:18:51] *you're [23:18:58] <[Saint]> Might as well be. New Zealand. [23:19:12] haha [23:21:20] You said for parts $129, right? [23:21:37] The link above has slightly used for $129 [23:22:44] <[Saint]> Yeah, it looks as though in your case that too many people tried to game the market and flooded it and brought pricing back down organically. [23:22:55] <[Saint]> Here, pricing is very much still through the roof. [23:23:01] Okay [23:24:25] Either that or this one person doesn't know what the product is worth [23:24:31] <[Saint]> If you can find an iPod Video, you can get a MK2431GAH 240GB HDD for reasonably cheap these days. [23:24:39] <[Saint]> If capacity is the greater consideration. [23:24:58] Audio quality is most important, followed by capacity