[01:14:05] <[Saint_]> user890104: seems [7] even wrote one, two, actually, at one point. [01:14:35] <[Saint_]> Or it's possible I'm just finding two different versions with differing attributions at different hosting sites. [01:18:27] *** Joins: orpheu (0252b710@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.82.183.16) [01:18:51] *** [Saint_] is now known as [Saint] [01:19:55] [Saint]: the first version has no attribution of the author of the linux port, because he just wanted to make it work [01:20:23] the second one, which is also ported by him, has his name and is technically the same code, just formatted better [01:21:50] <[Saint]> yeah, after I mentioned it here I dug up several versions from several authors. Haven't tried kludging any of them into the worlkflow yet. [01:22:04] <[Saint]> I just said "ah fuck it" and virtualized it. [03:59:59] hey, i am trying to build the boot menu app but i get this error: [04:00:04] [EMCAPP] build/bootmenu-ipodclassic.elf make: arm-elf-eabi-elf2emcoreapp: Command not found make: *** [build/bootmenu-ipodclassic.emcoreapp] Error 127 [04:44:13] <[Saint]> Any particular reason you're trying to do this? [04:44:13] <[Saint]> emCORE is considered deprecated at this point. [04:44:31] <[Saint]> orpheu: (sorry for the late reply) [04:46:30] for the pitty thing of changing the background menu on the boot [04:47:14] <[Saint]> Who even sees the boot menu this regularly, and, why? I take it you're not aware of the fastboot option? [04:47:21] you think i should use the new dualboot function instead of emcore? [04:47:31] <[Saint]> Yes. [04:47:51] <[Saint]> No end user should have ever been using emCORE, ever, really. [04:48:13] <[Saint]> It is way too much overkill for a given end user not interested in development. [04:48:36] the only thing that i wanted was the disk mode [04:48:46] <[Saint]> You should not be using that. [04:48:48] <[Saint]> At all. [04:48:56] <[Saint]> That version was never released for a reason. [04:49:08] really? [04:49:25] <[Saint]> emCORE disk mode is highly unstable and will trash your data at some point. [04:49:31] <[Saint]> And, yes, really really. [04:49:48] <[Saint]> There's a very real reason why the current release is so old. It's actually stable. [04:50:02] oh, that explains that event some months agot that i though it was my fault..... [04:50:46] well, dualboot will be. [04:52:12] <[Saint]> Yes. Bonus being you get to test case something in active development with absolutely zero hardware risk, and...dual boot. [04:52:39] <[Saint]> s/absolutely zero/some value on non-zero approximately equal to zero/ [04:53:11] <[Saint]> You need to be dedicated and take some very deliberate action to brick an iPod that exposes DFU mode. [04:53:23] <[Saint]> (which is all iPods from Nano2G onwards) [04:54:40] <[Saint]> orpheu: linux or Windows host? [04:55:23] windows [04:55:25] <[Saint]> You'll need to restore first, obviously, if it's a Windows host there's a recent version of the bootloader, mk6gboot, and RbUtil that user890104 compiled available here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/532426/ipod-classic-rockbox-its-happening/3510#post_12302874 [04:56:35] <[Saint]> Restore with iTunes, or without using http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Restore_iPod_without_iTunes, and then extract that linked archive and run RbUtil from it following the prompts given by RbUtil. [04:57:02] <[Saint]> (kill AppleMobileDeviceHelper and friends first) [04:57:10] i have been delaying to do the dualboot on my other ipod only because i didnt wanted to install itunes and format it before i backup the playlist... [04:57:21] <[Saint]> You don't need to. [04:57:25] <[Saint]> Install iTunes, I mean. [04:57:28] <[Saint]> see above. [04:57:43] yeah... [04:57:50] <[Saint]> Ohhhh...I see. [04:57:53] i will use that other option [04:58:01] <[Saint]> That was a 'd'Oh! *click*' moment. [04:58:10] <[Saint]> I see, right. [04:58:16] <[Saint]> Yes, yes that exists indeed. [04:59:15] <[Saint]> I'm actually pottering around right now trying to kludge the flow into a *nix version with a *nix-specific ipodscsi version, but I seem to be failing for some non-obvious reason. [04:59:44] <[Saint]> Everything is just hanging when it has to communicate with ipodscsi but I suspect you don't care about this, so...*ahem*, anyway, have fun. [05:01:45] i probably would, if i knew what you mean with that ^^ [05:20:05] just installed the dualboot, everything went ok, booted apple and rockbox, then i just noticed one small thing, its now 127gb instead of 230gb [06:14:10] *** Quits: Zelec (~quassel@unaffiliated/zelec) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [06:14:32] *** Joins: Zelec (~quassel@2602:ffb6:2:0:f816:3eff:fef6:19b8) [06:14:32] *** Quits: Zelec (~quassel@2602:ffb6:2:0:f816:3eff:fef6:19b8) (Changing host) [06:14:32] *** Joins: Zelec (~quassel@unaffiliated/zelec) [06:39:25] *** Quits: TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [06:41:01] *** Joins: TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) [07:51:12] <[Saint]> ...interesting. [07:51:17] <[Saint]> prof_wolfff: ^ [07:51:28] <[Saint]> that'll more than likely interest you. [09:42:03] *** Quits: krnlyng (~liar@77.117.65.134.wireless.dyn.drei.com) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [09:54:33] *** Joins: krnlyng (~liar@77.116.102.225.wireless.dyn.drei.com) [13:38:42] *** Quits: krnlyng (~liar@77.116.102.225.wireless.dyn.drei.com) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:55:09] *** Joins: krnlyng (~liar@77.116.102.225.wireless.dyn.drei.com) [14:35:08] [Saint] a few weeks ago i tested the ipodscsi for Linux and the first try works well on my 80Gb iPod (probably because it was previously formatted using iTunes), next tried on a 160Gb and IIRC works well for RB but not for OF (0 bytes free), added to my TODO list to see what was happening [14:36:33] ATM i don't know exactly how the restore works, but it seem that when the disk is mounted with OF or diskmode only the data partition is exposed, the whole disk is available when it is mounted using RB, the strangle thing is that the partition type changes, this is what i get with my iPod 80 (formatted using iTunes and working ok): [14:37:37] RB: [14:37:47] /dev/sdh1 63 19488469 19488407 74,4G b W95 FAT32 [14:37:52] OF [14:38:01] /dev/sdh1 * 49278 19537684 19488407 74,4G c W95 FAT32 (LBA) [14:38:12] /dev/sdh2 63 49214 49152 192M 3f unknown [14:39:35] Sorry, the partition tables are reversed, the two partitions are visible mounting using RB [14:40:54] About the 230Gb, i suppose it is a moded iPod, probably the problem is that the HDD is not supported by OF so it does not use all the available size, i think it is needed a singleboot-installer to allow people to use only RB and forget about OF HDD format [14:46:21] i managed to fix it using the extend partition on aomei [14:47:28] and now is the whole disk recognized by OF? [14:47:36] now i can "see" all 238gb avaliabe on OF and Diskmode but if i connect the ipod with rockbox the ipod doest show up [14:47:59] probably its itunes drivers blocking ir or something [14:49:42] nahh, it wants me to restore [14:49:48] i am going to try again [14:49:58] i don't know exactly how RB handles partitions, maybe the extended partition confuses RB, did you tried on Linux? [15:00:01] restored and only 127gb again... [15:00:27] i only want rockbox and disk mode tho [15:04:43] if you are interested i can try to build a singleboot-loader, it is a matter of removing the lines that abort the install when there is no OF in the NOR [15:05:26] but it is only for RB, the problem is how to format the disk for the fist time, not sure but suspect that diskmode will not work with HDD not formated by OF [15:07:14] no need for the build, i will use the one with OF but not use the OF [15:07:35] the only problem is this 127gb and usb rockbox not working [15:09:54] ok, anyway i have to look at this in more detail in future [17:14:00] i am trying to restore the ipod without apple and i get this error: [17:14:03] c:\Python27>python ipoddfu.py WTF.x1223.RELEASE.dfu Traceback (most recent call last): File "ipoddfu.py", line 26, in import libipoddfu File "c:\Python27\libipoddfu.py", line 27, in import usb.core ImportError: No module named usb.core [17:15:14] any idea? i have all the files on the python folder [17:17:25] orpheu: sorry, never used ipoddfu.py on Windows, you can also try mk6gboot.exe --dfusend, should work [17:18:32] mk6gboot.exe --dfusend WTF.x1223.RELEASE.dfu [17:18:36] like this? [17:18:48] yes [17:19:29] not much tested on windows, but IIRC on Linux it was working well for the apple DFU files [18:32:51] *** Quits: STeeF (~STeeF@office.hostnetbv.nl) (Remote host closed the connection) [21:32:02] i dont seem to find a wayto make the ipod recognized as 238gb instead of 127gb [21:33:14] only way i found was to resize the partition after i boot with rockbox, but then if i boot apple disk mode or apple OF it corrupts the partition and i am unable to boot rockbox again... [21:44:31] *** Quits: orpheu (0252b710@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.82.183.16) (Quit: Page closed) [21:51:29] *** Joins: orpheu (0252b710@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.82.183.16) [21:52:53] hey, is it possible that this problem is caused by apple blocking more than 127gb on certain ipod models? [22:12:33] orpheu: formatting using ipodscsi may help [22:12:44] repartitioning actually [22:12:52] did you try this? [22:13:04] ipodscs1? [22:13:09] no i did not [22:13:15] where can i find it [22:15:42] the problem is that apple OF and diskmode only format to 127gb, only way to get to 256gb is to use partition resize on aomei and assign a driver letter after i can boot with rockbox, but OF stops working and if i boot diskmode it removes the partition and creates a 16gb one... [22:24:29] which operating system are you using on your computer? [22:24:38] windows 8.1 [22:25:23] keep in mind that using this will wipe your ipod's hard disk [22:26:05] i wiped it like 20 times only today... [22:39:58] orpheu: i suspect the problem is that the HDD is not recognized (or supported) by OF, if so there is not much to do, if you want to use OF it _seems_ that the partition must be recognized by OF and created by itself during the restore [22:40:48] isnt there that problem on certain ipod versions that you cannot have more than 128gb? [22:43:31] i don't know what could be exactly the problem in OF, maybe not the capacity but other specific thing on this HDD, do you know size of the original HDD for that iPod? [22:44:00] yup, ipod 6g slim version is lba48 locked or something.... [22:44:23] it was a 6g 80g... [22:44:43] what is the version of the OF, 1.1.2? [22:44:50] 1.1.2 [22:46:48] these models had 80Gb or 160GB, but 160GB was CE-ATA HDD (not ATA), it is possible that a maximum of 128GB for these model, but really i have no idea about that, latter models support 160GB [22:47:27] i just read that this model is locked to 127gb... [22:48:30] so only option is to use emcore? i was told i shouldnt use emcore... i do get alot of errors using it.. [22:50:06] i think that r859 is ok, used it for years with no problems [22:50:49] ro r859, make it boot rockbox automatically and never use the diskmode? [22:50:53] is that an option? [22:51:33] orpheu: http://files.freemyipod.org/~user890104/freemyipod/tools/ipodscsi/ipodscsi.exe [22:51:34] the ipod is for a gift and i would really like to give something that doesnt go bad on the first month... [22:51:43] have no emCORE at this moment installed, but IIRC there was a format option somewhere [22:52:03] orpheu: can you follow the restore-without-itunes instructions please? [22:52:10] http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Restore_iPod_without_iTunes [22:52:20] i already tryed that, it gave me an error.. [22:52:43] just use mk6gboot.exe --dfusend instead of ipoddfu.py [22:52:49] oh ok [22:52:58] for both uploads [22:53:03] DFU and WTF [22:53:22] i should update the guide at some point... [22:53:36] the python stuff is more complicated to get it running [22:54:18] thanks to prof_wolfff we now have an easy way for windows users, not involving installation of custom drivers and disabling signature checks in the operating system [22:57:55] what is the ipodscsi for btw? [23:06:39] orpheu: ipodscsi is used to restore the iPod without using iTunes [23:07:26] yeah, i am on that stage now [23:08:00] but you restored it using iTunes lots of times, right? [23:08:26] yup.. [23:09:48] it is the same thing, the problem seems that OF does not recognize the HDD correctly [23:10:52] "the size must be multiple of 2048" [23:11:09] mse file must be multiple of 2048* [23:11:47] C:\Users\orpheu\Desktop\RockboxBootloaderInstaller_iPodClassic_v8>ipodscsi F: ip od6g writefirmware -p -r iPod_24.1.1.2.ipsw iPodSCSI v. 0.1.0 r959 - Copyright 2011 by Michael Sparmann (TheSeven) This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. MSE file size must be a multiple of 4096 [23:15:26] you can try ipodscsi to 'force' the format, once formated by ipodscsi it must be recognized by OF [23:20:13] the error was my fault, was using the wrong file [23:22:23] it installed the firmware but didnt format the ipod? [23:22:38] !* [23:26:59] its 127gb again... [23:28:56] http://www.head-fi.org/t/566780/official-ipod-video-classic-5g-5-5g-6g-6-5g-7g-ssd-mod-thread/3270#post_10728513 [23:29:03] i have the same problem i guess [23:29:10] emcore will be then :/ [23:29:51] you can try to install emCORE and format the HDD using it, or launch the RB fallback imagen from emCORE? and see if the HDD is detected by your OS [23:30:55] with emcore it always 256gb its only using this dualboot that you have to use the OF that i get this 127gb problems [23:31:19] if you use emCORE there is no dualboot, only Rockbox [23:31:54] yeah no problem, at least i have the 256gb ^^ [23:32:33] the only thing is that with emcore i guet alot of corruption problem, but i tihnk that was the disk mode causing them [23:35:03] i used r859 to boot, and RB to mount the disk and copy files on Linux with no much troubles [23:36:56] just installed that one [23:37:06] i hope it works ok [23:51:43] this one works ok [23:51:53] 238gb avaliable [23:52:22] but rockbox is slow at transfering file, 8mb's...