--- Log opened Fri Jul 02 00:12:02 2010
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00:50 < rhcp1253> hey, my ipod appears to be bricked, how can i tell if it's fixable
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00:53 < rhcp1253> anyone here?
00:53 < rhcp1253> i need a little help
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02:28 < rhcp1253> hey, my ipod nano 2g is bricked unless someone can help me with ibugger
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03:04 < rhcp1253> can some one please help me?
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18:04 < TheSeven> rhcp1253: what's up?
18:28 < TheSeven> when you're back: what exactly did you do? how exactly is the ipod behaving right now? which OS are you using on your PC?
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23:10 < rhcp1253> ok, i updated iloader and then tried to uninstall. Now, whenever i boot up the ipod, it states "Error: Can't load AUPD !". I can get it into ibugger, but i have no idea how to access the console. I have a mac with windows in vmware
23:11 < TheSeven> turn the hold switch off, press and hold menu+select, as soon as you notice the display changing immediately hold select + play
23:11 < TheSeven> I assume you didn't restore using itunes before copying the uninstaller?
23:12 < rhcp1253> yea, i didn't
23:12 < rhcp1253> YAY! DISK MODE!
23:12 < rhcp1253> thank you so much!
23:13 < TheSeven> why do people always skip this step?
23:14 < TheSeven> is there anything that isn't clean with those instructions?
23:14 < rhcp1253> o, apparently i did restore. It opened itunes saying it wants 2 setup the new ipod. Didn't follow through on that 1
23:16 < rhcp1253> now that i have access to the disk, can i do a complete restore completely removing iloader?
23:17 < TheSeven> you'll need to do a restore using itunes
23:17 < TheSeven> however, that won't uninstall iloader, it's just a prerequisite for uninstalling it
23:17 < TheSeven> after the restore completes, just copy the uninstaller files to it again to complete the uninstallation
23:19 < rhcp1253> i have the uninstallation files on the ipod nand right now. I'll just safely remove and see what happens. Worst is i have 2 do the same again
23:20 < rhcp1253> and what do u know? same problem. Ima restore 1 more time and see if that fixes anything
23:26 < rhcp1253> can i uninstall from ipodpatcher?
23:26 < rhcp1253> its not able to read the nand
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23:40 < TheSeven> hmm weird
23:42 < TheSeven> can you see the firmware partition in disk mode?
23:47 < rhcp1253> no, but that might be bc its a macpod. I'm restoring in vmware windows as we speak
23:48 < rhcp1253> and btw, how does ibugger fit into all this?
23:48 < TheSeven> hm, macpods should also have a firmware partition
23:48 < TheSeven> however, it might be a GPT partition table instead of the MBR format the uninstaller expects
23:48 < rhcp1253> yea, thats what i was thinking
23:49 < TheSeven> ibugger is our debugger stub for the samsung ipods
23:49 < TheSeven> norloader boots it if you turn the hold switch on while booting, to reduce the bricking risk
23:50 < rhcp1253> what can it do? is it a command prompt, or does it just execute code?
23:50 < TheSeven> norloader + iloader are rather simple and old, well-tested code that hopefully won't ever need to be changed again, and as long as this part is working, you can recover from anything. if norloader would fail, you would be really stuck.
23:51 < TheSeven> it's mostly intended to upload and run arbitrary code
23:52 < rhcp1253> ok, so its not  of use to an end-user
23:53 < TheSeven> at least not directly
23:53 < rhcp1253> ok, i get ity
23:53 < rhcp1253> it
23:53 < TheSeven> in some cases, end-users needed to use it to fix some really bad things
23:53 < rhcp1253> like what?
23:54 < TheSeven> non-booting ipods, back when the iloader installer wasn't as stable as it is now
23:54 < rhcp1253> is it still in beta?
23:55 < TheSeven> there are still some ways to make it fail really ugly
23:55 < TheSeven> and as you have seen, the uninstaller is a mess
23:56 < rhcp1253> yea, it need a better way 2 uninstall. O, can i use "sudo ./ipodpatcher -d"?
23:56 < rhcp1253> or would that really screw things up
23:56 < TheSeven> it would probably just bail out, but it can't do any good
23:56 < TheSeven> you can't access the flash where iloader is stored via disk mode
23:56 < TheSeven> that's why we need that uninstaller
23:57 < rhcp1253> can i get an image of the original ipod flash?
23:57 < rhcp1253> i found the mbr on the rockbox server, but idk if thats what i need
23:57 < TheSeven> in case you have saved your norflash.bak file, yes
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23:57 < TheSeven> ah, you mean the bootflash or the firmware partition?
23:58 < rhcp1253> yea
23:58 < rhcp1253> idk where 2 get it
23:59 < TheSeven> any news on the attempt to restore using windows itunes?
--- Log closed Sat Jul 03 00:00:04 2010