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15:47 < dakiato> Hello. It seems after installing the latest iLoader, under Linux the iPod filesystem is mounted as read only and I am unable to add/remove any files on it. Would anyone know why this is happening?
15:47 < Farthen> hmm
15:48 < Farthen> try mount -n -o remount,rw /media/youripod
15:50 < dakiato> The command executed fine, but now it seems I can add files/delete them if they are on the root of the iPod, but anything in folders are still locked as read-only. How odd
15:51 < dakiato> Oh nevermind, I was mistaken. All files are read-only
15:51 < dakiato> Would it be best to restore this on a computer with iTunes and start from scratch?
15:52 < Farthen> hmm, i can't imaging why this happens
15:52 < Farthen> *imagine
15:52 < Farthen> can you try to add/delete a file as root?
15:52 < dakiato> Sure, let me check
15:53 < dakiato> bash: test.txt: Read-only file system - As root that is what I get
15:54 < Farthen> that's weird
15:54 < dakiato> Indeed
15:54 < Farthen> what is the output of "mount | grep /media/youripod" ?
15:55 < dakiato> /dev/sdc on /media/WAFFLES type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,flush)
15:56 < Farthen> hmm, it definitely states rw
15:56 * Farthen is confused
15:56 < Farthen> are you running disk mode?
15:56 < dakiato> Yep. Tried with the iLoader disk mode, and booting the Apple firmware's one both with the same results
15:57 < Farthen> do you have a windows machine around?
15:57 < dakiato> will a Virtual Machine work?
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15:58 < kyle6513> hey guys
15:58 < Farthen> maybe, i don't know. i'm just wondering if the same problem occurs on windows
15:58 < Farthen> hi
15:58 < kyle6513> problem and windows in the same sentence is a widely used sentence (:
15:58 < kyle6513> (im very aware that sentence didnt make much sense)
15:58 < Farthen> this time the problem seems to be a linux one ;)
15:58 < kyle6513> ah, whats going on?
15:59 < Farthen> somehow the ipod mounts as read-only on linux after installing iloader...
15:59 < kyle6513> odd, where is iloader being installed?
16:00 < kyle6513> maybe its a permissions issue
16:00 < kyle6513> try a sudo'd command.
16:00 < Farthen> dakiato: can you umount the ipod, plug it out, plug it back in, mount it and paste the last 30 lines of /var/log/syslog to http://pastebin.com
16:00 < Farthen> ?
16:01 < Farthen> kyle6513: we already tried using root
16:01 < dakiato> Alright, I have the iPod mounted under my VM, and I have full read/write to all of the iPod
16:01 < dakiato> let me try that command..
16:02 < Farthen> should be tail -n 30 /var/log/syslog after doing the first steps ;)
16:02 < kyle6513> i take it we have an iloader alpha?
16:03 < Farthen> alpha? what do you mean?
16:03 < Farthen> iloader is pretty stable actually ;)
16:03 < dakiato> http://paste2.org/p/968610
16:03 < kyle6513> haha
16:03 < dakiato> pastebin was down
16:03 < Farthen> np
16:04 < Farthen> the log looks ok
16:04 < Farthen> this should not have anything to do with iloader...
16:05 < Farthen> can you try to mount the ipod somewhere else? just in case there is something wrong with the directory...
16:05 < dakiato> sure
16:06 < dakiato> Same results in /mnt
16:06 < kyle6513> If you want I can boot up my linux and see if its a specific issue to linux?
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16:07 < Farthen> kyle6513: if it was like that then people would have complained earlier ;)
16:07 < kyle6513> Farthen, Thats very true
16:07 < Farthen> dakiato: i really don't know what's the problem here... which distribution are you running?
16:08 < dakiato> Ubuntu 10.04
16:08 < Salamander> DOES ANY ONE KNOW IF I CAN LOAD IGPSP WITH ILOADER ??AND IF YES, HOW CAN I DO IT?
16:08 < kyle6513> O.o
16:09 < kyle6513> IGPSP?
16:09 < Farthen> Salamander: 1) please don't shout and 2)can you tell me what igpsp is?
16:09 < Farthen> dakiato: the only idea i have is that you could try to reboot and check if it works afterwards
16:09 < Salamander> ysorry ^^' igpsp ia a gba emulator
16:09 < kyle6513> Farthen, its an emulator for the gameboy advanced
16:09 < Farthen> ok, i see
16:10 < Farthen> you can not run that it with iloader...
16:10 < kyle6513> Salamander, although I do believe that rockbox, which works with iloader (for the nano 2g atleast for now) has some sort of emulator for the game boys
16:11 < liar> #
16:11 < liar> #
16:11 < Salamander> yes its gb and gbc only
16:11 < Farthen> liar: what the hell are you doing there? xD
16:11 < Salamander> and i really want to play gba
16:11 < kyle6513> Farthen, IGPSP is also for the ipod touch...
16:12 < kyle6513> Salamander, I'll look to see if theres any addons for GBA yet.
16:12 < Salamander> ok thx
16:12 < Farthen> Salamander: but check http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginRockboy
16:12 < Farthen> it is a rockbox plugin
16:12 < kyle6513> Farthen, Just found it :P
16:13 < Salamander> I know this one but its only for gb and gbc --
16:13 < Farthen> then there is no gba emulator, i'm sorry for that
16:13 < Salamander> ok no problem
16:14 < kyle6513> Salamander, The only condolences I can salvage is if you have a psp go for that :P
16:14 < Farthen> or just use a gba, gba sp, nds or nds lite :-P
16:15 < Salamander> no i only have a psp 3004
16:15 < kyle6513> Farthen, NDS is very poor value tbh.
16:15 < kyle6513> Salamander, they have been hacked to be allowed to run custom software,
16:15 < kyle6513> Salamander, This is fairly offtopic though, private chat?
16:16 < Salamander> sorry i must go now
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16:16 < kyle6513> Salamander, Sorry I couldn't help.
16:17 < Farthen> dakiato: any progress in your weird problem?
16:18 < kyle6513> It could be possible to port any sort of python gba emulator to run on the nano. Depending if the cpu can handle it
16:18 < dakiato> Just reformatted the entire device, there were a lot of strange errors from fsck
16:18 < kyle6513> maybe a strange bug in the installer?
16:18 < dakiato> It was the filesystem, full R/W under Linux now
16:19 < dakiato> How odd
16:19 < dakiato> But, hoorah! Its solved. I thank you both for your assistance :)
16:19 < kyle6513> haha I didnt do much :P
16:19 < Farthen> this should not happen, but you fixed it ;)
16:22 < dakiato> Im still amazed at the incredibly fast boot times on iLoader
16:22 < kyle6513> dakiato, Did you ever use the nano 2g's iloader?
16:22 < Farthen> kyle6513: he does right now :-P
16:23 < dakiato> I used the first ever release, then switched to Rockbox's, then back to the new one
16:23 < kyle6513> oh so that was the 2g that he was playing now?
16:23 < dakiato> Indeed :)
16:23 < kyle6513> talking about now
16:23 < kyle6513> ahh hahahaha, I thought it was the 4th g ><
16:24 < kyle6513> seems a beta for iloader is coming out soon, from what the wiki says though
16:24 < Farthen> yeah, the new one will be based on emBIOS
16:25 < Farthen> this makes iloader more portable to the other ipods
16:25 < dakiato> is emBIOS designed just for iLoader?
16:26 < kyle6513> more designed for the nano 4g, due to its hardware, right?
16:26 < Farthen> no, it is designed as a platform to run all kinds of apps on
16:26 < kyle6513> oh, right haha
16:26 < Farthen> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmBIOS
16:26 < kyle6513> i've fallen behind ><
16:27 < kyle6513> oh right
16:27 < Farthen> kyle6513: but you *do* know about freemyipod, don't you?
16:27 < kyle6513> ahah yeah, its the new home for the wiki
16:27 < kyle6513> i think
16:28 < kyle6513> atleast a new home for the project
16:28 < Farthen> new home for everything (check #freemyipod here)
16:29 < Farthen> this channel is mainly for supporting the old iloader (the one that is not based on emBIOS)
16:29 < kyle6513> oh right haha
16:29 < dakiato> Were the plans for Linux on the 2G/4G dropped?
16:29 < kyle6513> in the long term it doesnt seem to be worth it
16:29 < kyle6513> but the ability to do it is still there
16:30 < Farthen> yeah, nobody wants to care about it. but if someone wants to he is welcome of course
16:31 < kyle6513> hell someone made tetris to run though ibugger awhile ago, so all that is required is porting linux
16:31 < Farthen> the point is that ipodlinux is quite dead and very outdated
16:31 < kyle6513> yeah
16:31 < kyle6513> mainly for the older black and white ipods
16:31 < Farthen> so you would need to remake everything. and nobody wants to because it is not worth it
16:32 < Farthen> rockbox is much better as a media player replacement
16:32 < Farthen> and emBIOS is our development platform and hardware abstraction so we don't need linux
16:34 < kyle6513> the firmware for the nano 2g was terrible, I remember it used to reset on one song, the file extension was MP3 so i changed it to mp3 and it played the song happily.
16:34 < kyle6513> Farthen, Was emBIOS created by the team or someone else entirely?
16:35 < Farthen> it was created by the freemyipod team (the former linux4nano team)
16:36 < kyle6513> Farthen, How much would be involved in porting linux to the nano?
16:36 < kyle6513> Farthen, Nevermind, just thought about it, you would need to port the entire kernel
16:37 < dakiato> With the Nano 1G ported, whats stopping the 2G? I'd imagine it'd be nearly the same
16:37 < Farthen> they are something completely different
16:37 < kyle6513> dakiato, hardware changes like the processor i would imagine, aswell as encryption
16:37 < Farthen> and the fact is that nobody cares about porting linux
16:37 < Farthen> so nobody does it
16:38 < kyle6513> dakiato, All you would really be able to do with linux is run programs, which can already be done by emBIOS
16:38 < Farthen> it is not a hell lot of work but nobody wants to do it
16:38 < kyle6513> (from what I understand)
16:38 < Farthen> you would need to recompile the programs anyway to make them run on linux. so you could just rewrite them for emBIOS
16:39 < Farthen> (or write a rockbox plugin)
16:39 < kyle6513> what does emBIOS run?
16:40 < Farthen> emBIOS apps :)
16:40 < kyle6513> haha, coded in what? arm?
16:40 < Farthen> c
16:41 < kyle6513> so you can run c and python on the ipod nano,
16:41 < kyle6513> :P
16:41 < Farthen> python? no, there is no python interpreter on the ipods
16:41 < kyle6513> ibugger?
16:42 < kyle6513> or was it python you ran which interfaced with ibugger
16:42 < Farthen> exactly
16:42 < kyle6513> ah haha
16:42 < Farthen> ibugger was completely replaced with emBIOS
16:42 < kyle6513> my brain is all over the place tonight
16:42 < kyle6513> so emBIOS apps are exe's? or
16:43 < kyle6513> dlls
16:43 < Farthen> .embiosapp's
16:43 < kyle6513> hahaha
16:43 < kyle6513> from what I understand C must be compiled though?
16:43 < Farthen> it's just a very small header with some information and then the code compiled for the target platform
16:44 < kyle6513> ah okay
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